The readers of this blog have done a tremendous job commenting on fall camp since I posted last week. I thought I’d feature some of their posts.
First this post from “Dallas Mike”. My comments are in italics
On the eve of fall camp, here are 15 predictions that I am counting on…
1) Optimism abound; Already true
2) Narduzzi mentioning the Coastal Championship several dozen times, but silence on the UNC Tar Heels; Well he was asked about it in a question and played it off. But start your counters ladies and gentlemen.
3) Narduzzi needling Jerry DiPaola and media puff pieces loaded in the hard drive as no beat writer really has any access or information unless it is strategically leaked; Completely true. Duzz needled Jerry at least three times in just his first interview.
4) The obligatory references to silly motivational team slogans…”Lock the Gates,” “Turn Out the Lights,” “Flip the Switch,” “Take It,” “The Pursuit,” “Win a Bowl Game” maybe I added one in there; Not yet but a near certainty
5) A robotic mantra of, “taking things 1 game at a time, especially in preparation for the conference opener with UVA”; Ding Ding we have a winner.
6) Insert name here _________ of junior or senior that….”is going to have a breakout year”; Said he was “excited about our offensive line” Also said “Patrick Jones has broken just about every weight room record we have”
7) People on this blog overreacting and expecting a “breakout season next year,” when Narduzzi purposefully mentions a young backup by name to push a veteran with no threat of losing his job; Will probably happen around day 3 of pads.
8) Reports that, “Kenny Pickett and the offense are ready to take a step forward this season under Coach Whipple”; These reports have already started and won’t end anytime soon. And by God I hope they are true.
9) When Kenny Pickett has a bad day, reports that “Nick Patti was hitting his targets out there” or Jeff George (not the #96 version) was “throwing with some great touch on the deep ball.” Dave Wannstedt’s best line ever: “The backup quarterback is always the most popular guy in town”
10) Narduzzi shocking everyone with the annual attempt to motivate an under the radar player through the media. For example, “Mychale Salahuddin may be the most talented RB I’ve coached in 30 years,” which will ultimately lead to absurd expectations and a feeling of unfulfilled promise when he graduates; Also day 3 of pads.
11) Reports that Borberly and Bates are “optimistic in their 2nd year as players have had a year of experience learning their systems.” Box checked.
12) Heaping praise on the strength and conditioning program; Box also checked.
13) References to camaraderie, brotherhood, and chemistry among this year’s group AND “embracing the role of the underdog”; Box checked yet again.
14) Gushing over new uniforms and logos; and And as good fans we all should be gushing…
15) Narduzzi’s defense, “finally has the personnel in place to make some noise in the ACC.” You heard it here first.
“Formerly WWB” summed up the key takeaways from Narduzzi’s presser nicely
1) V-Lique moved to wideout. (not a shock to me) Hope he’s been spending a lot of time with the JUGS machine
2) Balance on offense desired (not a shock) The last time we had a 50/50 run-pass ratio Walt Harris was OC. (Sarcasm here… I actually don’t know when the last time was)
3) OL more athletic this year Pure propaganda (until confirmed by an independent third party)
4) AJ Davis and Sibley from spring camp, and Salahuddin is now healthy but will be brought in slowly Great news about Salahuddin…if it’s true
5) 6 LBs vying for starters – wide open Sure they are
6) Jake Scarton (holder and back-up kicker) moved on ”’ kicker Alex Kessman will pick the holder from a handful of candidates Well I can probably tell you who it won’t be
7) TE Will Gragg is about 250 lb, up from 220 when he came here. “O'”fries will do that to you…
8) players do scan the internet to see what’s being written about them … Chris Peak referenced I am incensed by this blatant Pitt POV snub.
“TX Panther” Posted a link to media day interviews
That’s all for now. Will try to get some more stuff based on player and asst coach interviews posted tomorrow.
Some background on how we got here with respect to the Oline:
2014 — (Coach Chryst)
Bookser, Grimm, Hayes
(O’Neill, Herndon and Dintino were switched from other positions…)
2015 — (Coach Duzz)
Pilato and Paulina
2016 — Morgan, Williams, Ford, Hargrove.
2017 — Drake, Warren, Houy, Van Lynn, Drexel
All were 3-star recruits except for 2-star Drexel. You can see that the 2015 class was too small and washed out (Paulina was a 5.7 guy…) leaving a big gap in the roster.
I think OL is very difficult to recruit. Many players may look big-time in HS because they are just so much bigger than their opponent.
There are 14 Olinemen listed about (recruited as OL) and so far, only 2 of them (Bookser and Hargrove) have played a lot.
Course Morrisey snuck in somewhere as a walk-on…
Go Pitt.
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Another problem is Ford and Hargrove play the same position, so that class is basically one starter and a backup. Chryst really whiffed in 2014 and had no one for Narduzzi to hold onto in 2015.
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Interesting comments from Coach Beatty regarding who he sees as a breakout performer this year: Aaron Matthews—and he expounded on that a good bit. I, for one, agree and look forward to Matthews being a significant part of the offense. Could be Pitt’s version of Hines Ward (how’s that for being optimistic?)
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As a side note, here is the news story on the new football digs at tOSU. Unbelievable. My favorite line in the video, “Except for a class or two you could spend the entire day here.”
https://abc6onyourside.com/sports/the-football-fever/the-football-fever-ohio-state-adds-bells-and-whistles-at-woody-hayes-athletic-center
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its a football factory
they should just set up a minor league system for the NFL and pay the players
its a sham that they even pretend to take real classes and mingle with the student body
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V’Lique back to Receiver. Guess the Slot in Whipple’s Offense just makes too much sense not to give him a shot to compete there.
But still expect see to eventually see him being tabbed to take handoffs out of the backfield.
Players disappoint and injuries do happen.
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I can see V’Lique being used much in the way Henderson was used in ’16 where he was either handed the ball or used as a decoy. He won’t get as many carries but he may get more pass opportunities on swing routes
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So Steph Curry visited with his old college teammate and current Pitt coach Jason Richards while highly regarded point-guard recruit R.J. Davis was visiting Pitt.
Nice photo opp and Pitt memory…
Nice job by somebody…
Go Pitt.
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do you think Narduzzi could have pulled something like this off?
do you think he even would have thought of it?
Capel is going to land a top 10 class in no time
And he’ll do without the money bags which is more impressive
Pitt will be in an Elite 8 before Narduzzi gets back to another ACC championship game
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Why turn something good into something bad? Seems like a cheap shot to me.
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its points out the stark differences in recruiting approaches
you have one coach that understands he must do better in recruiting and is innovative in his approach
you have another coach that just doesnt get it and it will prevent the team from reaching its potential
but there are some that believe the MSU approach will work at Pitt in the ACC
it was a cheap shot by design
if I was Narduzzi I would be a little shamed right now
I’d be making a call to Larry Fitz
but I dont think Narduzzi feels shame and thinks he’s doing just fine
one coach hustles while the other sits back
although i will admit, narduzzi has more energy than chryst. but neither are known recruiters and neither get joy out of it
capel seems to really enjoy it
my suggestion to narduzzi is to find more recruiters…those young and hungry assistants that excel on the recruiting trail. ask your boss Heather for the money if you are short. thats the only way Pitt will consistently succeed.
Pitt is already behind Miami, NC and Ga Tech in recruiting this year yet some on here are touting it as Narduzzi’s best class yet.
its all relative
and thats why I pointed out Capel and compared against Narduzzi
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Reed must be so proud of you Tx.
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I expect more and I’m labeled negative. I present facts and it’s fake news. U gonna tell me to go back to the Nitter board next? Let’s just say we see things differently. I may be more in Reeds camp but that camp has been far more right than wrong. Truth hurts.
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Agreed gc. Aaron Donald = S Curry.
I know I know AD is a former PITT player but keep in mind. He has a choice where he works out but his rapport with Narduzzi is great so he works out and helps with the team. Another head coach could have mucked up that relationship.
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another coach would not have mucked it up
Capel is recruiting a top 10 PG so he gets the best PG in the league to show
Narduzzi should do his best to get certain guys to also show during visits
Like Fitz or Boyd for elite receivers
AD of course for any linemen
Reevis for DB’s
Take your pick for RB’s
Plenty of OL to pick from as well albeit older guys
But you get my point
dont just sit back but hustle
open your damn practices to recruits as well
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Tx, again and with all due respect. You list countless reasons why PITT and Narduzzi are fighting to get recruits with one hand tied behind their back and then ask why he can’t get the big recruits. That logic does not compute with me.
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they fight when they dont have to
or they bring a knife into a gun fight
thats all on the coaches
Narduzzi is the only coach with the rope and he will hang himself
one of the first things Capel did was to take down the rope
Pitt supplies every coach with rope
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TxP, Donald, Revis and Fitz have all served as captains in recent spring games, Boyd’s camp uses past and current Pitt players and GAs. Donald just gave a well-publicized $1M gift to Pitt FB
But I get Narduzzi failed for not getting Dion Lewis to bring Tom Brady to Pitt a few years back …. right?
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thats not what i said but go on and think Narduzzi hustles
he’s as lazy as they come
look at how Capel does it
there is little excuse as to why Pitt cant recruit more elites
the biggest constraint is the coaching at this point
everything else is a lame excuse (yellow seats? then tarp them but Narduzzi refuses; start winning and fans will show)
I mean what legitimate excuses are left?
Pitt is getting out-recruited by a guy older than Pappy
NC doesnt have the tradition
NC doesnt have the facilities
NC’s budget is less than Pitt’s
NC doesnt have recent success (unless you count Pitt)
Yet NC lands the 4 stars (and before u bring up recruiting territory…there are far more 4 and 5 stars in PA and neighboring states than there are in NC or SC)
My point lost on some people is that Capel understands recruiting and will be highly successful as a result
Narduzzi fails to understand recruiting and he will fail
and yes I consider a 7-7 season and a participation trophy as a failure
I stopped drinking Budweiser a long time ago
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NC stopped following the rules a long time ago.
Narruzzi would have a record that looks a lot more like Paul Hackett if he didn’t hustle
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Narduzzi could drink and sleep on the job and still not come close to being as bad as Hackett
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I think I’d take that bet….
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you’re on
Capel will see a Elite 8 before Natduzzi sees another ACC championship
this could end in a push you know
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Wasn’t Curry also a mentor for new PITT recruit Ryan Murphy?
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How about the Raiders and Gruden not knowing the whereabouts of AB who is MIA. I think he’s one bump in the head over the limit. What a joke he is.
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and just a btw, Carter wasn’t moved back to receiver, he was recruited and started his career at PITT as a DB
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Amazing how Carter was able to make those BIG runs against Duke as a D-Back.
Hilarious
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Whitehead was used in the same way and was effective in more than one game. Only when Henderson showed his greatness did Whitehead take a back seat.
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Remind me again, how many catches does Carter have so far in his career?
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Don’t know how good Carter’s hands are. It could be a quick stop at receiver before heading back to DB. It’s pretty clear that a minimum of three OL recruits should be brought in for each class. The coaches all like to say that offensive linemen are trained to be interchangeable, but OTs and OGs have slightly different skill sets, and an OT without the arms and foot skills could get a QB killed. Pitt will probably need to dip into the transfer pool each year to bring in at least one seasoned OL to start or provide depth.
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No doubt Narduzzi has to do a better job at recruiting O-tackles and Tight Ends.
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Didn’t think moving Carter to RB would work out. We will now find out if he has the hands to be a receiver, otherwise back to D-Back. You can not coach speed so hopefully they find his spot soon. Agree at receiver he may be the next Henderson, but Henderson had the ability to cut up field so not only fast but great lateral moves, haven’t seen that yet in Carter.
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Glad to be talking actual football.
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the Pitt offense promises to be more creative this year. But will it be more effective? To me, that is THE question for 2019.
I like the playmakers at the WRs and have less doubt than many that Pitt will again come up with a couple of pretty good, productive RBs. I even have little doubt that the QB position will be more productive.
But that still doesn’t answer the question
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Tx, beieve me, you will have many years in the future to tear down any and everything Narduzzi and PITT accomplish. “He ain’t a going nowhere” anytime soon. to quote Bob Dylan.
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My understanding is that Coach Capel got the idea to ask Steph Curry in from Coach Duzz’s use of AD…😊
And TX, explain to me about Coach Duzz being lazy. I haven’t been around him much, but that statement astounds me.
Coach Duzz seems like a 24/7 football guy to me. He’s not perfect, but he’s obviously driven and he’s obviously hungry, and, for better or worse, if you’re not with him and Pitt then you’re against him and Pitt…
Go Pitt.
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An interesting tidbit of information: Coach Powell was asked about the speed he now has with Carter and Salahuddin in the backfield and he answered that Sibley was faster than the both of them. I’d be willing to bet not many would have put Sibley at 5’9″ 220lbs in the speed burner category.
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That is surprising – and with the size of his thighs – very encouraging. I remember that Ohio State was interested in Sibley at one point and they do well on running backs…
A mini Marion Motley, I tell ya! 😊
(BTW, have any of you ever heard of Marion Motley?)
Go Pitt.
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I’ve heard of him …. but even before my time
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Just watched PN’s presser. Plenty of merit to criticism of his speaking abilities in the past but in that presser he was superb.
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Narduzzi has been improving for awhile now on his interactions with the media. I swear Pat and Jerry seem to get along just great. It would appear to me like they are friends actually.
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I have been saying that all along. I never had any doubt about it …. just typical POV anti-Narduzzi rhetoric
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I think every Pitt player would benefit from a couple of public speaking classes. Funny though, even as a speech and rhetoric major, the most impactful lessons I learned were from practicing the pitch to sell Collier’s encyclopedias one summer.
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Vision and lateral moves are as important as flat out speed to a RB. I am definitely excited to see the Running Backs who have been waiting their turn, and the youngsters that are trying to pass them by.
Interesting to hear that both O-line and linebacker have a lot of guys trying to make positions. Will find out very soon if that is a good thing or not so good thing.
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It’s a great thing gc, Narduzzi has built quality depth on the team despite all the hullabaloo about his poor his recruiting.
participation trophy, still can’t get over that one. It becomes very obvious to me that someone is trying way to hard………
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Yeah, last season’s participation trophy looked exactly like the one that was handed out for the winner of the Coastal Division of the ACC.
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Well at least schools who win it don’t treat it like something it’s not. They also don’t finish as champions with a .500 record. Those division champs are ranked heading into their bowl games and don’t strike out on them.
Yet Pitt proudly displays a trophy that holds little significance since the Coastal has been won by every school sans Virginia and its arguably the weakest division in all P5.
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Sheer nonsense once again. TX must wake up thinking about what he can say negative about Pitt every given day. But as they said on Seinfeld “there is nothing wrong about that”.
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I am sure Narduzzi never had a recruit run into a Steeler in the hallway, and Conner never stops by the locker room. Narduzzi may be underperforming regarding the high profile guys but to say he is lazy is ludicrous and a cheap shot.
By the way, Capel is in the hunt, but he hasn’t signed any of these big time guys yet. Meeting Seth Curry is really cool but time will tell if it was effective.
The other factor is that Pitt Basketball was pretty darn good recently and won some Big East titles. Pitt Football is a lot heavier lift. Been a long time without any national relevance.
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Pitt basketball was zero for 25 in the ACC at one point
The program was nearly dead
Capel is recruiting kids who remember that and not ten years ago when Pitt was a number 1 seed from a league that nobody talks about anymore.
It’s been a long time since Pitt won a bowl game and got ranked. Narduzzi had three chances and struck out. Kids that narduzzi is recruiting see that.
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How many push ups can you do?
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As many as the teeth you can pull in five minutes.
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You can only do two pushups? The Doc is from the south now, he doesn’t work by the tooth he works at his laid-back leisure but you still have me beat by two. I have trouble pushing myself out of bed in the morning…… does that count as one? Oh and the bathroom breaks in the night. That’s another four or five.
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Tx, I respect you and most of your comments and I know you don’t comment on the POV hoping for my approval or anyone else’s. I wish had your email address to talk with you privately. Mine is ike210@comcast.net , you’re way way too articulate to be reaching like you are today. Your disdain is as obvious as the hair on Narduzzi’s arms and his huge calf’s. but imo opinion, you just don’t like the guy and you’ve proven that to the world of POV today…… and even before that. AND A BIG BTW, I’m not defending Narduzzi here, hope you get that.
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ike – I’m allowed one over the top comment each month. Yes – lazy was a poor choice of words. Stubborn is more appropriate.
But my word sure did stir up a hornets nest like it was hit by a Texas twister
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Little over the top for sure there Texas Twister. Be a great new screen name for you. and yes, I believe Narduzzi has been a little stubborn his first few years but he may be coming around??
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I’d be willing to bet that Capel doesn’t have a snowballs chance in hell of signing that recruit that met Curry. And to set the record straight Capel recruiting class this year was ranked as one of the lowest in the ACC.
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Narduzzi is lazy. That is a new absurd criticism. You’re reaching on that one Tex.
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Let’s call it stubborn. That to me is being lazy. And don’t forget stupid as well because he’s the guy that hires all these bozos.
I don’t let him off the hook for a 28-26 record after 4 years to go along with lack of oline development and sub par recruiting.
Yet some are expecting Pitt to repeat as Coastal champs. I need to snort some novacain right now.
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Now we can agree that the guy is one stubborn SOB!
But his last set of hires looks pretty good to me. Bates, Collins, Whipple and Beatty…
Go Pitt.
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Ya’ll need to quit critiquing the critiquer – until you’ve had the advantage of living in Texas and being so close to the program! You can get so much more inside info that way.
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I don’t mind the back and forth. It’s fun. I give credit to those who are proven right. All I expect is the same. And it’s just mere coincidence that us Texans are most critical of your so called Commonwealth and City of Champions where fries are put on everything.
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GC… on your point above comparing Whitehead to Carter… surprises me how many ways you’re mistaken on this point.
Not like you to be THAT wrong.
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You will have to elaborate PoD. I’m missing something.
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Tex, you’re over the top with that laziness stuff. Narduzzi has some challenges, but working hard is not one of them. It sounds like he is even doing a better job in the pressers. So as we enter the season, you should cut him a break unless and until it becomes apparent that the season is heading south. If that happens, you will be vindicated soon enough…
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You are certainly asking the wrong man to cut him a break. TX is on a mission to destroy Narduzzi in any way he can. But as IKE previously posted he’s going to get the opportunity to take down Narduzzi over many more years since he ain’t going anywhere anytime soon.
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Given Pitt ‘s mediocrity over the past four years, what’s the over/under win total in year 5 before people start asking for a change?
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Pitt doesn’t think that way. It’s based on graduation rates and GPA’s. So 93 percent graduation and a 2.9 gpa.
Five years ago, the over/under on wins would have been nine or ten. That’s if you believe in winning. And that’s based on what most AD’s expect of coaches. The AD’s more concerned about field performance than classroom.
Vegas has set the line at 6.5 I believe. Slightly above the 30 year average for Pitt which is 5.7
I am comfortably numb.
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There you go making sense again Tx and answering your own questions. You baffle me with science. no no video. 🙂
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Doesn’t matter Gasman. The goal was for PITT to win the coastal. When that happened? The goal post changed. When PITT did win the division somewhere around 6 or 7 posters headed for the exit. Many are back which is very good. The hidden stat here is that how many posters are getting a little weary of the unwarranted attacks on PITT and Narduzzi. I have over 30 emails of regular commenters on the POV and 95% of them are tired of the attacks and comment very rarely anymore… This is the truth…. ike
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Like Ike says, narduzzi will be coach unless they find a dead hooker in his bed.
Anyone know where I can get a hooker?
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Tex, that is really uncalled for. Not even funny.
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its a classic scene from the Godfather
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TX is worse than the TV reruns. You almost know what he’s going to say any every day and we all heard it 20 times over.
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Well maybe one day you will realize that Pitt really doesn’t care about sports and will thank me for my wisdom.
Destroyer of Hope
Tex
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Gasman, the last 4 years …. 28-24. The previous 4 years …. 25-27. But that doesn’t tell the whole story.
of opponents that finished ranked the last 4 years: 18
of opponents that finished ranked the previous 4 years: 9
but go ahead … continue with your myopic view as you always do
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It was a cogent question, posed without bias.
Myopic view…rather insulting, especially from one who didn’t graduate from Pitt.
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it’s myopic because you never consider the difficulty of schedule. You just look at the wins and losses. Quality of opponent matters … it really does!
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It still doesn’t excuse his bowl losses
Or the blow out losses
I had to go all the way back to majors to see as many
And none of those teams were vastly superior to Pitt except for clemson.
No excuse being blown out by central Florida or penn state. Or even losing to North Carolina
I honestly don’t hate narduzzi but I don’t bow down to him either.
I’m more upset that Pitt doesn’t take winning seriously.
Come year 5 I was really expecting nine to ten wins. Pitt will be lucky to hit 8.
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I like TX.
I like Tower B.
And of course, UPitt.
If everyone spewed the same opinion, this would be nothing but a mindless rah-rah session.
Besides, I want better than mediocrity…and winning the Coastal, while it sounds nice, was really no big deal to me when we lost the last three games and got throttled in a few others.
H2P!
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We would be zombies much like the Nitters. We all drink different flavors of Koolaid. That’s a good thing. Some might just think my flavor takes a bit like vinegar. I was never a sweet tooth.
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from one big one to another …. take a gander at this
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Whoa!
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Not the catch…
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Gasman and UPitt, I know I’m probably public enemy #1 to your group of POV Antis …..
but like it or not, I don’t come even close to the vitriol that UPitt spews out on this site.
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Vitriol is a bit much. I’m tired of your little bs comments directed at people and I called it out. Narduzzi stinks, Lyke is very weak and Capel’s recruiting better get better. There are some coaches I like and some folks in Atheltics I like but overall atheltics is in a very bad place.
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Pitt thinks so much of Lyke that she is one of the least compensated ADs in all P5. It also goes to show what Gallagher thinks of that front porch.
And Pitt sports is in a very bad place. The worst showing in over 25 years if you value winning across all sports programs.
But getting back to gasman, I don’t think Pitt has an over/under on wins. There are more factors that go into it and I’m sure they look at trends. But success at Pitt has historically been less defined by the number of wins and more defined by those other factors that generally aren’t given as high a priority by most schools.
As long as attendance doesn’t drop like a rock, a major scandal occurs and academic standards aren’t compromised, Narduzzi will be coach for life.
That means 6-8 win seasons with the occasional bad and breakout year. Consider winning the Coastal a breakout year based on Pitt.
This commentary sponsored by UPMC catheters and Heinz apple cider vinegar.
Tex
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Narduzzi has blown opportunities every season. He’s got to finish ranked and win a bowl game. Period. Even good old Wanny beat NC and one a bowl game (2 if you count the one his DC won). In year 5.
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Vitriol is a bit much. you crossed a very broad line there pal….
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wwb – youre the Yin to my Yang, youre Obi-Wan and I’m Vader, youre Holmes and I’m Moriarty, youre Harry and I’m Voldemort
you need us as much as we need you
Tex
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and you are right TX, love your comments for the most part but overstating a comment is hyperbole crap.
This happens every year on the POV, (seriously) it’s almost like we should meet up and play a tackle football game between ourselves? Bernie can be the ref, Fran can be the replay judge and John can do the play by play. I’ll stay on the sideline and coach….. 🙂
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Hyberbole is fine. Just need to have thick skin. Talk shows are all about the hyberbole. It can actually draw out folks and create good debate if strategically used. That’s why I used it. It was just one bullet in my Colt. I’m not a gunslinger by nature. But I love a good gunfight.
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LOL Tx, I get you.
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Not sure how I qualify as POV antis ( not quite sure what that even is).
But I’m not satisfied with mediocrity. Better still, I don’t know why Pitt is satisfied with it.
And, if it frosts your flakes that I ask what the win over/under is before people start complaining, then you, my friend, are looking for a reason to bitch.
That said, I’ll be at the UCF game…I’ll buy you a drink so we can discuss this further.
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Maestro, I think you have lost control.
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Lost control is drama and trying to stir up stuff and expected from you.
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At least I am not a childish name caller.
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I can give you a list of things you are if you need help.
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Most guys grow out of it on the seventh grade playground.
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I agree. So far only two comments out of bounds (and only one by you … keep the junk-size comments off the board please) and both have been deleted
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You take one two hour flight with a toddler and and infant and all the Pitt fans in Texas…show that they are toddlers and infants.
I’m executing justice right now
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Calling out the truth is frowned upon in our PC culture and your PC POV. Don’t worry about taking my post down. I won’t post and the usuals can post their passive aggresive comments to anyone with a different opinion. It is a joke.
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So let me spell this out in plain English.
There will be no explicit reference to genitalia – male or female – joking or otherwise – on this blog. End of discussion
You have a college degree. Feel free to put it to use in calling out anyone you want.
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Off topic…haha, but Dogfish Head beer has light IPA called something like Lightly Mighty. It’s awesome and will be featured at the opening tailgate.
Wear your UPMC texas catheter (they exist) …
Not a bad giveaway idea for Old Fart Day.
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7:45 mark
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That’s very nice there Lykes travel agent. Now I’m gonna call you a name and I don’t care. Way to hide behind your big talk. I call you a coward for posting such demeaning crap when you do not identify yourself. I have a few more choice names but I’ll keep them to myself. . for now.
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Thanks for holding your water Ike. I have deleted that comment as is attacks something that is completely out of HL’s control (her gender) and is also very crudely stereotypical
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and Mark. c’mon friend. That comment was a bit much but I’ll give you kudos though buddy. We know your name and face. To me, that makes you valid.
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Fran, isn’t dogfish brewery in Rehobeth Maryland?
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Milton Deleware Ike.
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Delaware…duh.
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Oh that’s right Fran. We were at Dewey Beach.
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Now would be a good time for me to put away my cpu mouse and keyboard for tonight.
On a more serious note. Thinking of two POV friends who have family members that are having serious health issues tonight. Thoughts and prayers being sent out as I type this.
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You are a good man Ike.
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Deleting not because of your position but because of borderline sexist comment. There are a lot of other ways to say that that doesn’t demean due to gender
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Also deleting. Irrelevant and out of bounds
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I agree with Ike…prayers are needed.
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Normally come here to see some good banter. I’ll come back someday when it returns.
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Usually limited to the first 50 posts or so and then things start to go to seed…
That or maybe the guys are just getting old 😆
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I think we all just need something new from camp to chew on…
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