As I wrote our 2017 home game tailgating plans are firming up nicely. We’ll be at every game in Red Lot 5A and will be there hours early and about an hour after the game.  I already put up one article and as we get closer to the end of camp I’ll pin the info to the top of the blog.

One thing – we’ll have a donation box for POV’ers who attend (and anyone else actually). One POV’er is donating a lot of time, effort and a parking space and the others are putting out some up front costs – so we’ll reimburse them… OK guys?

You all are the best and I have about another week before I settle in with my new volunteer work – I’ll try my best to be up to the Pitt Media Day on Tuesday then I’ll try to get more articles out on a regular basis…

https://pittsburgh.rivals.com/news/mailbag-8-4-2017-qbs-wrs-board-games-and-more

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725571-preseason-college-football-rankings-2017-teams-that-will-exceed-expectations

Preseason Amway Coaches Poll

Typical Coach speak – RB coach Powell

Here is an example…

PAT SAID QADREE NEEDS TO PLAY BETTER THAN HE DID WHEN HE RAN FOR 1,100 YARDS TWO YEARS AGO.

POWELL: Sure.

CAN HE DO THAT?

POWELL: I don’t know. He was a redshirt freshman and that was two years ago. So I think he can. That’s the bar. We’re trying to raise the bar. He rushed for 1,100 yards, a little bit wiser, a little ability to anticipate and see things before they happen, receiving the tips that the defense gives you, he could have had more yards.

Hopefully he knows those things now or is learning them now, and when it comes to the time to play, hopefully he’ll be a better player.

OK Coach – now tell us what you really think.

 

Aaron Mathews – two-week suspension? From Rivals.com:  (Who will be WR#2 if Henderson is in the slot?)

https://pittsburgh.forums.rivals.com/threads/training-camp-notes-8-3-2017.115022/

Aaron Mathews was not, as the sophomore receiver missed his third practice in as many days Thursday. There had been no official word on Mathews’ status, so I asked Narduzzi prior to Thursday’s practice if he expected Mathews to join the team soon.

“I expect Aaron – he’s got some personal obligations he’s trying to take care of right now, as well as a lot of other guys, like I mentioned earlier a couple days ago. He’s got some things going on right now that he’s got to take care of. We expect to have him back there the end of next week. So he’s good.”

Well, I wouldn’t say “he’s good” if he’s not out there practicing. I have heard from a few people that Mathews was serving a two-week suspension; Narduzzi obviously didn’t use that language, but his timeline – saying Mathews will be “back there the end of next week” – fits the fortnight timeline I have heard.

Either way, he’s not there.

Here are some additional tidbits to keep the discussion juices flowing. 

We have said that this year is the season that Pat Narduzzi is going to have to play ball with the majority of his starters being Narduzzi recruits, and transferred-in players. 

I didn’t show the offensive chart below but at my best guess that out of 11 players only four are Narduzzi guys, with the OL being populated with Chryst recruits. I’m also assuming Ollison will be the RB with Aston.

So – Browne, O’Neil, Clark and Henderson, if he starts at WR, but all the WRs save Weah are Narduzzi guys. Total – four and all pretty talented.

On defense it will be a different, and let’s hope a better, story as we won’t have many starters who aren’t Narduzzi’s players, seven out of 11 there.  The Chryst guys are Maddox, Briggs, Folston and Oluwaseun to start the season.

That is just flipped from the offense – and remember these are just speculative starters at this point before camp.

When I dug a bit deeper to look at the starting experience side of things what I found was pretty eye-opening once I delved into the stat book. Here is what I think the lineup will be over the first three matches. And to answer a recurring question about whose players are going to be playing in the defense as starters and back-up the Narduzzi acquired player are in amber.

DEFENSE    
 Star Ranking & Starts  Star Ranking & Starts
DE Hendrix, Dewayne RS JR/TR 4*  / 1 Edwards, Allen RS SR 2*  /  4
NT Camp, Keyshon RS FR 3*  / 0 Herndon, Mike RS JR 3*  /  0
DT Watts, Amir SO 4*  / 1 Roy, Shane RS JR 3*  /  0
DE Folston Jr., James RS JR 3*  / 0 Rashad Weaver, RS FR 2*  /  0
MONEY Zeise, Elijah RS JR 3*  / 1 Anthony McKee, RS FR 3*  /  0
MIKE Brightwell, Saleem RS SO 3*  / 2 Pine, Chase RS FR 3*  /  0
STAR Idowu, Oluwaseun RS JR WO  /  12 McKee, Anthony RS SO 3*  /  0
CB Maddox, Avonte SR 3*  /  27 Damar Hamlin, SO 4*  /  0
SS Briggs, Dennis RS JR 2*  /  0 Phillipie Motley, RS JR 3*  /  2
FS Stocker, Jay RS SO 3*  /  0 Ford, Paris FR 4*  /  0
CB Jackson, Dane RS SO 2*  /   3 Hamlin, Damar SO 4*  /  0
Star / Start Average 2.8*  /  4
3.1*  /   6

As far as recruit rankings go our prospective defensive first string averages 2.9* and the back ups average 3.1*.

But the experience factor is what worries me.  We are so inexperienced in fact that if you take away our only truly tested by fire 1st string player, CB Avonte Maddox and his 27 starts, we then average 2.0 starts with the other 10 starters.

Of course because backups in the two-deep are normally populated by younger players our 2nd string guys there average only  0.5 (1/2 game) starts each. That is really low and let’s keep – fingers crossed for no injuries.

What really got me thought was that in a majority of these younger player’s games played (aside from starts) it was almost always in the special teams unit and not at an actual field position on defense.

So -three years ago we had one of the youngest teams in the FBS – and it is coming around again.  That 2014 team went 6-7 under Paul Chryst but I don’t think we’ll see that this season.  But it is pretty worrisome when you see it laid out like that.

But those players on the 2014 team also gave us 16 wins over the last two years also, so who’s to say we can’t do that again or win even more!  It’s a tough task I think but it wouldn’t be all that surprising.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2725571-preseason-college-football-rankings-2017-teams-that-will-exceed-expectations

Wisconsin’s Top Ten Spot

 

Preseason Amway Coaches Poll

Quarterback Alex Hornibrook is a talented player who struggled as he split time with Bart Houston last year. However, with just a bit of improvement in his decisiveness and accuracy, the Badgers’ passing game could improve quite a bit.

The running game should be sensational, as it usually is in Madison. While Corey Clement has moved on, Chris James has transferred from Pittsburgh, and he should be ready for a memorable season. He will be running behind a powerful and huge offensive line, and that unit should be able to open up craters while blocking for him.

Notes:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/05/heinz-field-installs-an-entirely-new-field/

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166 thoughts on “POV Sunday Podcast; August 8, 2017

  1. I just finished watching the E:60 on my High School, Strong Vincent in Erie. Wow. A very inspirational and tragic story. I haven’t walked those hallways since I left many moons ago and now it’s closed for good. It was remarkable to see how the hallways and gym stood still with the passage of time. They don’t appear to have changed much in the past quarter century.

    E:60 on Twitter
    “A murder triggered a rash of violence that threatened to tear apart a team & their city, until 2 coaches at the center of it all stepped in. https://t.co/Scwri1LoiU”

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    1. I live in Erie, now, and while I wasn’t around when the entire event took place, it’s still hits home. Incredible piece.

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  2. Reed, I believe Allen Edwards was a PN pick-up ….. and McKee is definitely a Narduzzi pick-up as you may recall Chryst continued to recruit him after he resigned from Pitt .. and even hosted a visit from McKee in Madison.

    One more thing .. about Aaron Matthews …. 2 week suspension? I think the ? must be emphasized here because unless you know something we don’t, it is difficult to speculate. For all we know, there may be an illness in his family or something. Note that while Pitt is mum on why players are suspended, they still do announce them (I think)

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  3. I always though Chris James was a step away from having the ‘it’ factor. Don’t see the other three upper class men as having that burst.
    As for Mathews, if it is punitive, suspend him from games. But missing two weeks of practice is like missing two weeks of work.

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  4. Again imo, I really am not worried about how, why and what the players were or are rated. I worry about how they play the game on the field. I understand all the breaking down of each player but those ranking are WAY to subjective for me anymore.

    Narduzzi won two 8 regular season games the past two years with a group of low ranked recruiting classes. Which I guess takes us back to Eric’s article.

    Program stability and continuity to me are the most important staples of a successful football college team.

    Thinking Ford is waiting on results of some kind and I get the feeling Paris and all PITT fan’s are in for great news.

    Grand kids over again and didn’t get a chance to finish the podcast. Check you all later … ike

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  5. Is it me, or do things look like they are getting worse, conduct wise. Now we hear from Reed that Matthews is suspended for 2 weeks and cannot practice. I know there are outside temptations, and this could be the time when summer session grades are coming in, but maybe Duzz needs to think about how he “oversees” these kids during the off season and during off hours. Pitt doesn’t have the depth needed to withstand the loss of several key players due to disciplinary issues.

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    1. I wouldn’t consider a Rivals forum as necessarily a credible source. I believe the “Pitt Administration is holding a meeting of all athletes to announce they are joining the Big 10” story which turned into a national news emanated from there

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  6. Two thoughts regarding the projected lineup above, if it’s pretty accurate:

    The ‘stars’ beside the names strike me as largely irrelevant
    A starting safety combo of Stocker and Briggs would imply that PN has a long way to go on the recruiting front, and if those 2 are still there mid season, yikes… don’t get me wrong, I’ll be pulling for whomever is back there, it’s just that those are important positions in Narduzzi’s scheme

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    1. I know of 6 since end of ’16 season. Taleni, Blair, Whitehead, Wirginis, Bookser & maybe Matthews. Who are the other 11? Are they starters? walk-ons? band members?

      20% of 85 scholarships is 17. 20% of 105 (total roster limit) is 21. Watch your hyperbole.

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    2. 105 players on the roster. 20%=21 players.
      Taleni & Blair gone. Whitehead & Wirginis suspended for the first three games, Bookser for one. Who am I missing? That’s more like 5%.

      Fake News from Upitt.

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      1. Comical you guys count team as 100 players. 70 will never smell the field. 20% of starters is all that matters not bench warmers.

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  7. BTW – In the Bleacher Report Reed linked for a Chris James update, PITT is mentioned along with 4 others teams that are could exceed expectations. There is no write up like Wiscy, Houston & Army received.

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  8. Why do I feel that the only reason we get these 4star kinda guys is because they are damaged goods. I know that is an exaggeration but, it feels that way.
    Reed, regarding the tailgate, parking passes are worth their weight in gold, so it may be tough to get another one. Plus you never know who is gonna show, especially when the weather turns, and if we start losing. At least we have 1 space, and we can stuff lots of folks in and around it.

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  9. We had about 40 people for the Nittany **itters game last year and 5 for Duke…it is what it is. This spot can handle the crowd. The problem is I have truck and can’t lock a lot of stuff from pre to post game. That’s why my buddy comes as early as I do and parks in the first floor of the Red Garage on the Red 5A side…we are about 20 yards apart. Reed, there are entrepreneurs that will ride people to the stadium in a bicycle powered carriage. Don’t know the cost. Also, is there a T stop closer to Heinz Field?

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  10. RE: Mathews… Pitt doesn’t announce internal discipline unless it is so obvious they have too – like 3 game suspensions. So I don’t believe we’d hear of it through those channels. Chris peak is correct in almost every bit of news he puts out so I don’t doubt that bit about Mathews at all. Plus I heard it referenced again just yesterday.

    “Suspended” can mean many things – I always use the word “discipline” or was “awarded discipline” if i think it was a serious a transgression of rules. Perhaps I should have said “barred from practice” which sounds less serious…

    It can even mean academics if the staff wants to ensure that that side of things is taken care of by the kid without the player being distracted by practicing. But I don’t think it was that.

    But if it was really serious it would have been made public with a game(s) suspension- even then those aren’t always made public as Whitehead’s missing a game last year has implied. You have to realize that there is a real mind game being played between the coaching staff and the media when it comes to these things – Narduzzi (and other coaches) would very much prefer not to have to say anything to the media at all – and especially about things that may shed negative light on his program.

    The only reason he made Boyd and Blair’s summer suspensions public were because their criminal incidents were serious enough that the media (and fans) demanded to know what he was doing about them – so he quickly announced the sanctions imposed for the off season – then waited until right before camp to announce the actual suspensions.

    From July 2015:

    “One of the top offensive players in the ACC will have to sit out the season opener. On Monday, Pittsburgh head coach Pat Narduzzi announced the suspension of wide receiver Tyler Boyd from the September 5 home game against Youngstown State. Sophomore defensive lineman Rori Blair will also sit out the game due to disciplinary action.

    “In addition to their game suspensions, Tyler and Rori have been, and will continue to be, subject to internal discipline and accountability,” Narduzzi said in a released statement. “The situations were very disappointing and both young men have expressed their regret. Our expectation is that each of them, as well as our entire team, will learn from their mistakes and be better for it moving forward.”

    Lots of different issues involved – but the basic problem is still there for Mathews – he’s fighting for a starting job and is missing two weeks of a 16 practice camp.

    Remember the two-deep is created after the first two weeks of camp so that the staff and players can focus on game conditions, and who they will be starters with out on the field, when the season starts.

    Even then again – I would expect Mathews to be a starter sooner than later.

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    1. I am unable to read the link above about Mathews because ti’s behind a paywall. So Peak posted the suspension, and not a poster. If so, then I agree it is credible

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  11. Rich Man, so since being to Cali you’ve decided to part your screen name in the middle. Has Pebble Beach gone to your head already?

    An extra parking space would be a luxury but not a necessity for sure.

    Hamlin wasn’t damaged goods and neither will Raines be. Camp and Watts were big time recruits last year.

    Good post PittCocks, All teams have trouble this time of the year. Things are bad enough without exaggerating them.

    My daughter stopped by today with two of the grand children for my upcoming birthday (I’ll be 42) I opened up a beautiful PITT script folding chair and a great light PITT script shirt. How in the heck did she know they are exactly what I wanted?? … ike

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  12. Oh Ike – how do you ‘exaggerate’ on two dismissals of starters on a almost brand new DL and three game suspensions off a defense that was horrid the year before? No one needs to exaggerate that – it is pretty bad on the face of it.

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  13. Reed: Don’t get so excited there big boy. PittCocks and myself were responding to a post that stated that 20% of the PITT team was suspended, in trouble or kicked off the team.

    I don’t poo poo the turnover for the PITT team this year. It will be a great challenge for Narduzzi and the PITT team for sure.. ike

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  14. Watching the local news and they are talking about how much harder the psu schedule is in 2017 than 2016.

    They were picking the nits over Pitt by 14 and then they played the clip of Franklin proclaiming they were going to dominate the state.

    What a joke – they lost to Temple and Pitt, yet they still look down their noses.

    I hate penn state even more tonight!

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  15. Its bad from a perception standpoint. Shows Pitt as a program out of control. Thats why these things are hidden at most schools. Not saying to hide things but its how you spin it and how serious your policies are towards infractions. I’m pretty sure many schools are far more lenient of reefer but it these kids have been warned and disciplined previously for the offense, its a matter of maturity and all on them. I just hope theres no more suspensions. Best to get them done and over with quickly. Unfortunately at Pitt, next man up has little experience and maybe less talent.

    Pitt football will win as many games as basketball this year…6

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  16. It’s not even close to the 90s. I’ll say this again … Pitt may take its lumps, especially early this year … but they are a year away fro being a pretty good team. I fully expect them to be competitive in the Coastal over the next 2 years and (hopefully) beyond.

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  17. ^ I agree that PITT will take some lumps this season but I also believe they will rebound and finish strong. Miami aside?? If Narduzzi gets some younger guys some real quality playing time this year, then next season should be the beginning of the real future for PITT football!! …………………and I’m not ruling out an ACC Coastal Championship this year!!

    Narduzzi brought in Browne for one reason. He believes that PITT can win every game this year. Hell, I can go along with that and why wouldn’t every true PITT fan believe it as well? There has never been a game I thought PITT couldn’t win in the last 50 years at least!… ….ike

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  18. I didn’t even realize there was a space twixt Rich and man. Oh well. And to the contrary, after being in pebble area, the amount of money there is obscene and humbling. It is a playground for the rich and famous of the world not just the US. More expensive than DC or NYC, think stadium prices ;-). Think $30 for a freaking omelette. I would go again in a heartbeat, however it will take another couple of years to save up for it.

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  19. Splitting the baby 6 of 22 potential starters is 27%, though not sure UPitt meant it that way.
    Question – if your grades are not up to snuff until posted can you scrimmage? When will the summer session grades be officially posted?

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  20. A program out of control, wow talk about being drama… Collectively, we know just enough about what’s going on to be dangerous. Letting behavior slide because a coach is lax in that area (as some recent coaches have been) kills a program. Love Narduzzi’s (& the school’s) approach. Don’t live the over-dramatization.

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  21. Hey Rich, if you would have bumped into a golf celebrity at Pebble and he asked to join in your group to golf with you. Who would it be?

    Mine? Bill Murray hands down.

    Yeah, way too much about PITT being some sort of an exceptional renegade football program imo.

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  22. Don’t get excited. Upitt is in training camp also, just warming up for the season! lol
    All of it just gets me excited for the season. We will see if the Duzzer can coach. If he should happen to go 2-1 to start I would be shocked. Just think we’ll get hammered those first 4 games. Any truth to rumor the honeymoon will be on the Yough? lol, have fun!

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  23. I’m sure other schools are spinning it as such in the recruiting wars. Pitt is often its worst enemy.

    I think this years basketball will actually be worse than the mid 90’s teams. Those Willard years sure were fun.

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    1. TX, a little bit too much hand ringing for me. Everybody is back by the time conference play begins.
      A 1-2 start wouldn’t surprise me though.

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  24. Ike, there is only one ‘celebrity ‘ that I would want to run into,….my dad. Would be great to have one more round with him. As for a true celebrity, I agree, Bill Murray or John Stewart, or my classmate Paul Giamotti.

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  25. Richman, that’s a really cool response. I’m jealous of you and your great memories. I have no such memories…

    Wanny was fired because steve couldn’t take the competition, the self absorbed s.o.b!

    Prediction: Matthews and Ford will be eligible this season. .. ike

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  26. –With Aaron M. Missing some time, I’m Hoping Flowers takes advantage of the practice time to make himself a contributor at WR.

    –Agree that we’re getting virtually no info from camp — and we have so many Questions and issues… Clark, Hendrix, Browne, Reeves, Hamlin, the center position, etc. — we’ve got mysteries galore!

    –Part of the fun of camp for me was always hearing who is doing better than expected — even if it was just mostly smoke said to motivate someone else. Pitt fans live on HOPE and the Pitt Hope Machine is getting no input right now…

    Wish Coach Duzz could find a happy medium…

    Go Pitt.

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  27. Hey Richman, I think I almost hit Bing Crosby’s house while playing Pebble. I stink at golf now. I also left my dad’s putter on the 14th green and when I got to the 18th, I told my caddie that i left it on the fringe because I had pulled it out of the bag and then decided to pitch instead of putt. My pitch came up 4 inches short and I was given the putt, so I didn’t bend over and get my dads putter. Almost lost the bugger!

    Another WPIAL guy not participating. Time to move on with the season. Those that take care of their business appropriately, get an opportunity to play.

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  28. No one is over dramatisizing the behavioral situation at Pitt, if anything there is a lot of praise being pointed toward Narduzzi for his handling of the discipline awarded. Although it is unusual in these last few years for Pitt to have four guys get in trouble all at the same time.

    Regarding DW; his problem was a series of violent incidences with his players and not issues like academic or smoking weed, but much more serious and criminal incidents by players on the roster…. and the poor way he handled those players before and after those transgressions.

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  29. Here we are, Monday morning, and with Fall camp in full swing no information or articles over the weekend. Are they trying to obscure the Pitt program at a time when they should be selling season tickets? I just don’t understand the athletic department. Ironically, given the Matthews situation, I can see why they don’t open up practice more. People may start to see that other players are missing. At least that is what they choose to convey with their approach to publicity.

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  30. Hopefully the discipline will pay off, but since most of these guys seem to be repeat offenders it doesn’t seem to be easy. Taleni Blair, Wirginis and Whitehead should have been providing leadership this year, instead two are gone and Whitehead and Wirginis are on a very short leash.

    If the rest of the team hasn’t got the message by now it makes you wonder.

    Who are the leaders this year, team captains?

    Character better be something that Coach is looking for in his recruiting.

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  31. Agree VoR, how is Heather supposed to sell tickets with no PR. There should have been articles on Saturday and Sunday when more people read the Sports page. Let the public get to know the players. How are the position battles going? This cloak of secrecy may be good on game day, but absence from the sports page is just plain dumb. People are more likely to support the team if they know the players names and background.

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  32. The common theme with the recent disciplined players is WPIAL connections with the exception of Taleni.

    The whole 412Crew promotion slowly withered and disappeared.

    I personally don’t think there is a big problem other than some of these young men are still acting like boys. Let’s face it, most of us did stupid stuff in our college days. Some of us did not get caught or if we did we weren’t a high profile athlete with a full scholarship to burn.

    Better days ahead – high stick the Penguins on our way to creepy valley.

    HTP!

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  33. Some interesting pictures on PSN with the different units going out on the town to eat with their unit coaches. One shows the WR’s and it sure looks like Aaron Matthews in that one. So you guys can make of that what you will but I’m not overly concerned about AM being a bad bad boy at this time.

    I just hope the PITT football team doesn’t go into a panic mode so easily as some their fans do.

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  34. What game day specials and promos is Heather and Co advertising to attract the general public to fill up seats for the first 2 home games? Any commercialsads seen on TV or the paper. How is the marketing going..do they have a marketing program? Need to get 50k a game in those seats-that would be a damn good average.
    I am buying tickets for 4 family members for a couple of games…
    Come on Team..H2P- asses in seats!!!

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  35. Ah, IKE, finally some perspectiive applied to the “drama”.

    And GC, I agree, recruiting character is key, it’s impossible to babysit 100 players 24/7/365. All D1 programs have the same challenges and problems these days, though it must be challenging to balance an incoming class with character and talent.

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  36. I just find the non-love for Ollison interesting. His 1100 yards just not good enough.

    Of course he should be better, he is two years older, has not been injured.

    He is not and probably never will be a flashy runner. Just solid and dependable.

    He again is following a legend as he did two years ago. Not easy.

    Hall and Moss were both given chances last year and never really distinguished themselves either.

    Certainly not like Ray Graham when he backed up Deon Lewis.

    Sounds like the two freshmen haven’t shown any flashes yet either.

    But we have the speed of Henderson, the power of Alston, just need a solid, dependable guy to hit holes and pick up yards. Hopefully one of these guys separates from the bunch.

    But 1100 yards as a redshirt freshmen is not chopped liver. ACC Rookie of the year.

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  37. Who do they make the marquis guys to sell this year besides Henderson, maybe O’Neil.

    Last year they had Conner and Peterman. No one on defense thanks to Whitehead’s behavior.

    Maybe Narduzzi, like PSU used to sell JoePa.

    Time is of the essence.

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    1. Maybe the marketing was centered around Whitehead and QH. The recent suspension changed all of that and the AD is scrambling to re-do the presentation.

      Just saying…

      Makes sense and it would be a costly change at that.

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  38. Hard to live up to Pitt’s recent running backs, Shady, Deon, Ray, and Conner.

    You knew the first time you saw them they had “It”.

    Overwhelming talent. None of our guys have shown that yet, even Ollison with 1100 yards.

    Makes you wonder if they will.

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  39. I have been following the Browne saga since the announcement he was coming to Pitt. But I still have never seen on tape or live if he can throw the football. They are keeping this guy so under wraps that they are stifling the program and keeping the attendance down. Even if he becomes a future bust, tickets are sold on excitement and expectation, and Pitt just doesn’t get it. I expected a long, interesting story on Pitt camp and player performances in Sunday’s paper, but NOTHING!

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  40. @wwb – I always carry 2 putters. My regular putter and my Dad’s putter that I take with me and use to putt at least one time during a round at every course I play. Richman was busting my chops about having too many clubs in my bag. I don’t take the game that seriously (3or 4 times a year), but used to play every day in my late teens and early 20’s when I worked at a golf course.

    Agree that Pitt is fumbling with how to promote the Team! I would think that Pitt could put together some video to promote the team without giving out secrets. C’mon now fellas….”Release some Film”.

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    1. Yea Huff, after I posted I remembered that you always use your dad’s putter at least once a round. And it’s been to many of the world’s best courses.

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    1. Nard noted that Allen Edwards is having a good camp. He mentioned Edwards several times in his Practice #6 interview noting his consistency… He also noted that Hendrix was doing well on the other side. When asked about the DTs he didn’t name any names and suggested that none of them had distinguished themselves yet.

      I agree on Pugh and think that it will be difficult to keep Pugh off the field this year, though he may not be a starter.

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  41. Nice story on Dontez Ford in Detroit Free Press. Heck, looks like he could have been a Pitt FB player from the 60s ….

    Ford found other ways to flourish at Pitt, where he received regular academic honors. He graduated in April 2016 with a degree in marketing and finance, then received an ACC postgraduate scholarship and enrolled in Pitt’s Katz Graduate School of Business to pursue an MBA while playing the 2016 season.

    “Right now I’m not 100% sure what I want to do with it,” Ford said of his future graduate degree. “My interests right now are investment management, investment banking, wealth management. But who knows what happens with football? I may make some different connections, see something else I’m interested in. Just wherever it takes me.”

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  42. I find it mind-boggling that there are those who believe our coach was supposed to have all of the football players live in the gymnasium while he watched them 24/7 during the entire summer.
    That would have been the only way he could have come close to guaranteeing not one of them had smoked marijuana during their break.

    I have no doubt that Narduzzi drilled them all on the importance of using their summer time responsibly and staying out of trouble.

    I’m not even sure he is allowed to have 24/7 contact with them over the summer.

    Also, I for one am happy that Pitt provides consequences to their students who break the University’s rules and I hope that our players learn something from their actions.

    There are schools (cough penn state) who, if one of their star players was found to break ncaa rules, purportedly would hide it and not suspend the guilty.
    Heck, it wouldn’t surprise me if those types of schools have purchased clean samples to be microwaved and taken to the drug testing facility when the ncaa mandates them to be drug tested.

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  43. Thank you Pittman, my birthday is on Wednesday but my daughter wanted to come in from Oakmont and celebrate so she wouldn’t miss it during the week. …. and hey, you look too young to be 39 …. 🙂 … ike

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  44. you guys have some really weird beliefs about august camp

    every practice in august could be open to the media from start to finish and it would not raise attendance by so much as one butt in the seat

    it wouldn’t appreciably raise the amount of local media coverage either

    local media doesn’t care about pitt august camp and it isn’t because the pat narduzzi total information denial system is operating. it’s because they have no interest in generating excitement about pitt football and that is because they think pitt football will fall on its face several games each year and be average at best. that is the same reason why more people don’t go to home games

    only thing that will increase attendance and local media interest is winning 10+ games in a year then doing it again the next year

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  45. It is starting to look like Paris Ford will be able to suit up before the first game. Apparently he’s done better than the staff expected and might be able to join the team in Fall camp.

    What needs to happen before that is his case is presented to the NCAA clearing house and that decision from them sometimes takes a long time as Ford will be only one of many student/athletes from both D1 and D2 in ALL sports who are asking the clearing house for a clearance for eligibility.

    This is a bit of very good news if he can play to potential.

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  46. To be slightly contrarian, saw Pugh numerous times in HS and did not think he was all that. Felt the same way about Jeter. Sorry, just my opinion.

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  47. Three walk on freshman added to the roster reports PSN. What I found interesting is that one of the three is a defensive lineman from VA. at 6’1″ 230 lbs. I give him credit but I ask does he have a death wish?

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  48. My man DeAndre Schifino has left the building and is transferring out. Although he was a walk-on and it doesn’t free up a scholarship.

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  49. Just saw a Chris Peake teaser tweet…. more bad news for PITT on the injury front….. I am not a member…anyone have any info ?

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  50. Aston is done for the year. Getting Ford ready and Hamlin healthy is pretty crucial for the secondary. We need Maddox and Dane Jackson to stay healthy because they will be the starting corners.

    I expect the Rutgers TE transfer to see lots of time blocking in George’s absence. Most important is the QB p,aging very well and consistently.

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  51. I’m writing off this year and maybe next. We need to give a QB experience and confidence this year. These transfers are for loser teams with no talent, depth or experience. Need to groom your own.

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  52. I saw a short video that included a catch by Clarke and he looked very big. The young man is 6’6″ 260 lbs and looks every bit of it to me. Looks like a real bad ass imo ….ike

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  53. Clarke has no heart and no wherewithall. Maybe he will finally work hard and do something before no one else will take him and he is on his 4 th team.

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  54. George will be back… next year! There has to be another fullback tough man on the roster chomping on the bit… lotta guys will get a chance to prove themselves and play.

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  55. Aston broken ankle confirmed…out for the season. He was our best returning offensive player, tied with O’Neill… It was his smart and strong blocking we’ll miss. We better hope Browne’s pocket mobility got 100% better over the off season.

    Ike, I said it “looked like” Ford will play. He still has some hurdles but let’s hope he’ll suit up at Pitt and not a prep school.

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  56. There are two other FB’s on the roster. Colton Lively from Texas is a senior with Aston’s size, not sure about ability.

    Tony Dorsett played FB at one time in his career – I believe against the nitters. Why not put one if your talented RB’s in the FB position? Has to be your best blocker with ball skills.

    UPitt give a positive comment on Pitt Football for 2017 – one! Dig deep buddy…

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  57. Reed: Ford and Matthews plays this year although Ford could red-shirt due to the late start.

    EE: In a famous move by Johnny Majors, Dorsett played fullback in the second half of PITT’s National Championship game against Georgia.

    Forget about a positive from Upitt! His most recent attempt was to say he actually likes Weah…………… wait for it….. as long as he doesn’t get the dropsies back. << The other shoe always has to drop!! …… ike

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  58. Screw Upittbaseball, he is a bad Karma gremlin for Pitt Football.
    He is responsible for Aston breaking his ankle.
    That Upitt prick probably has a voodoo Aston doll in his bedroom and enjoys twisting the legs on his doll every night before falling asleep. Bastard.

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  59. No excuses Narduzzi. Better win 8 BC next year will be worse.

    Ike – We have striped endzones. Let that sink in. Oh and Carricks 5th grade art class. Do someone puppet Heather.

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  60. UPitt – I was hoping Carrick 5th Grade Art Class graduated, and we brought in a graduate transfer art class. Someone who can script Pitt in big letters!

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      1. Or at least put the rubber “PayDirt” signs at each goal line.

        The Big Day is fast approaching, UPitt. You holding up OK, so far? I saw you were in South Beach this week. Helping the Estonian Bride-To-Be pack for Texas? Tell her Savannah says, “Hey!”

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  61. Just read an article on the PG and caught this nugget. I haven’t seen it anywhere else yet …

    “Speaking of injuries, starting fullback George Aston sustained one Monday. It might be severe, but Pitt did not announce anything regarding his status. Narduzzi might address it Tuesday at his media day news conference.”

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  62. Hey Upitt, I get all within…. it is what it is, it’s all about our outlook I guess and BTW, I’ll bet the anonymous poster is someone we all are very familiar with. Which is another BTW, I don’t agree with being able to change your screen name on a post by post bases.

    We may not hear about Georgie’s injury until next year when he magically returns from the moon! The Narduzzi gestapo is in full swing by now!!

    ….. and while I’m here, if the anonymous poster isn’t just jagging Upitt around? Then I find your posts highly insulting and stand firmly behind our friend Upitt. He’s a negative Nancy but he’s our Nancy non the less…. Couldn’t live without him .. … ..ike

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  63. LB Sean Idowu thinks the 2017 offense looks fast and think it will be better than last year’s O.

    Hmmm…must have been before Aston broke his ankle…

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  64. BigB makes a great point in an email I received from him. (thanks BigB) Losing Georgie could bring a big change to the PITT offense with Browne?? This could end up very good for PITT down the road. I do believe that PITT has 3 very good possible starting WR’s that may bring the change-up the offense needs this year. They also have a few nice back-ups as well. Hmmmm? … ike

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  65. Listen, from a true pragmatic perspective I agree with the cautious, if not pessimistic, comments. But….this is the time to be optimistic. If not now when? Listening to our young men giving interviews is amazing to me. These are young men who are well spoken and absolutely believe and support each other. I am proud of them in that regard and route for them with tremendous pride.

    Come week 4 of the season I reserve the right to adjust my attitude….

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  66. Thx Wlat! I scrolled thru 1st page of comments and missed 2nd page. Been busy last few days so I haven’t stayed on top of comments.

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  67. Ike,
    I believe Majors put Dorsett at the fullback position in the 2nd half of the last game of the regular season against PSU because they were keying on him big time. I’m almost positive it was not the bowl game against Georgia. Paterno always set out to stop the opposing teams best scoring threat but it didn’t work against the #1 Pitt Panthers.

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    1. OK Pittman you could very well be right. I would like some confirmation on this though. I remember it being the bowl game?? Then again, < old brain!

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  68. I think this is Reeds fault!! LOL! He picked Aston to have a “break” out year. Wrong break Reed! UGGGH! Nostrareedman.No more break out predictions!

    @deepel – I think the point about getting highlights out was missed. Out of sight out of mind. If highlights and news stories flood the market and we get an extra 250 people in the stands it is better than where we are now. As someone once said…. “it ain’t going do it on its own” or something like that.

    Just watched last chance u on netflix. Our Kam steals the show. Good grief, he pushed a coach and his language is 10 times worse than upitt’s. I hope he understands that this is his last chance. So many talented kids can’t shut their mouths!! Disrespect to elders is not a good sign. Pushing an elder/coach….much worse.

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  69. From my years of coaching basketball…if Aston has a one bone clean break, he’s out 6-8 weeks. If he has 2 bones or collateral ligament damage, he’s out for the season.

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  70. Those who want Pugh switched to fullback seem to forget Narduzzi’s comment about Pugh working as a running back on the scout team last year and having the “worst ability at holding onto the football.”

    Pugh is staying at DE. The Rutgers TE transfer will play a lot with Clark.

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  71. Been busy with other stuff as of late and have neglected Fall Camp news. Just got the message late last nite that Aston broke his ankle. This bad news Pitt Train is just killing my attitude. Once again I’m depressed and considerably more pessimistic than I’ve been about this Narduzzi program since it’s inception. The list continues to go on and on. Taleni & Blair gone. Tipton & now Aston out with season ending injuries. Stupid *%($ causing suspensions with Whitehead, Bookser & Wirginis! Kam Carter not winning any friends with his actions on “Last Chance U”. Where is this train headed?

    The biggest issue is this continuous erosion of the “leadership” of this team. Unlike on the defense where the new upcoming talent may actually produce some pleasant surprises as their playing time increases, the loss of George Aston is just 100% bad news. There is no optimistic spin on this huge loss. Loss of leadership, loss of experience, loss of just a stud football player, period.

    Worst thing is there is no quality back up ready to fill Aston’s position adequately enough for the “next man up” attitude to be relevant on this one. A .500 season is looking like a real possibility now. I’m so discouraged.

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  72. Yep Narduzzi said Pugh was the worst at ball security he has ever seen. Probably an exaggeration to reason the move I guess but still, not a ringing endorsement.

    Dintino can be move back to fullback, wouldn’t he be a bruising blocker? That way, Reed’s favorite center could be moved back there. (Officer)

    Seriously though PITT will probably go with Lively or they do have plenty of big backs that could be switch there? We have been asking which guy will play the most and here’s a chance to get a couple in the game at the same time.. Hall goes 220 and Ollie at 230 lbs. Blocking would be another story. ike

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  73. There’s zero quality depth at fullback right now. there is no other way to state this, the loss of George Aston is devastating to the offense!

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  74. Two tight ends would work well. Also, Pitt could focus more on short drops that would help Browne with his lack of mobility. Look for more multiple receiver sets. It is also a good opportunity to get one of the other running backs on the field. It might also depend on if Aston has a small bone break and can get back this year.

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  75. Those sane Pitt fans need to remember: 90% of the posters here are geezers… and they harken back to the glory days of players jumping out of dorm rooms to their death or players beating up police officers – now THOSE are REAL suspensions… not this wimp crap going on now.

    Right geezers??

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  76. John, you’re just a regular pain in the ass type there aren’t you John? Yet you bring up a good point although it was by accident on your part. (a broken clock is right twice a day) another geezer saying.

    I think what makes the POV so great is there is a diverse group here that respects one another for the most part. We share our thoughts among an eclectic group of ages and demeanor’s. You included John.

    …..but, if it wasn’t for the older poster’s (geezers) to bring more of a perspective, it just wouldn’t work. This place would turn into an average message board with millennial’s barking at each other all the day long. Now don’t get me wrong there, I can be a Jagoff same as the next guy and have fun doing it as well. That’s you basic message board most of the time.

    The younger PITT fans don’t know what it is to have a good team with the nicest uniforms in the country and dominate on the field. Yet all of the posters have seen the program practically dissembled before our very eyes. Now what in the hell we would all do without each other….. Remember …..We All We Got John!!

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  77. This is college ball. Injuries, transfers and suspensions happen all over the country. You all need to read the daily college football news outside of Pittsburgh.

    No excuses for this staff. That is why they recruit for depth. Find a RB, TE, smaller lineman or crazy walk-on to fill the void. Next man up.

    George is good but if this staff has recruited there should be another Henderson, Weah type player waiting to breakout this year. Remember how we all wondered how George possibly beat out Parrish. There is always another guy.

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    1. Notrocket, I wish that I could muster your unbridled enthusiasm but I can’t. I’m forwarding my “cup half full” label that I’ve earned in the past on to you my friend. I’m turning into an empty glass of pessimism after these last couple of bad news notices.

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      1. There is always another player:

        How about Erik Sellers – rushed for more yards than Aston in high school. Has hands, he played basketball and baseball (Upitt will root for him).

        … running back and linebacker as a senior when he compiled 1,000 rushing yards and 88 tackles…helped the Bison to a 44-7 mark (.863) over his four-year varsity career, including four conference championships and one region title
        …excellent all-around athlete who was also an all-league performer in basketball and a three-time letterman in baseball…National Honor Society member.

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        1. We will miss Aston, but as notrocket points out, the cupboard is not bare. I was a J.Parrish fan and wondered who this G.Aston guy was two years ago.

          Looking forward to seeing Erik Sellers get his chance.

          HTP (hold the pessimism)!

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  78. With Avonte Maddox, he keeps saying everyone’s gonna TURN AROUND AND PLAY THE BALL this year so I hope that’s real!

    @Reed please go be like a HEAT SEEKING MISSILE AND FIND MAX BROWNE!!! Please track him down and see what he’s about!!

    Is he a (oooo no offense!) kinda a ‘Zombie’ (to differ all blame from myself….that’s just the ‘jist’ we got from you haha) like Nathan Peterman who just was a massive upgrade over C Voytik and then two (oooo no offense! haha) total ‘deadbeats’ ——- Or maybe you like Max Browne a lot?

    That would be great if you go hone-in on Pitt’s current “Enigma” Quarterback” and try and charm him-up and bit and talk to him!

    Tell him you talked to the USC SB Nation and Blogger dudes and what they said too!!! 🙂

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  79. With Avonte Maddox, he keeps saying everyone’s gonna TURN AROUND AND PLAY THE BALL this year so I hope that’s real!

    @Reed please go be like a HEAT SEEKING MISSILE AND FIND MAX BROWNE!!! Please track him down and see what he’s about!

    Is he (oooo no offense) kinda a ‘Zombie’ (to differ all blame from myself….that’s just the ‘jist’ we got from you haha) like Nathan Peterman —– who just was a massive upgrade over C Voytik and then two (oooo no offense!) total ‘deadbeats’ ——- Or maybe you like Max Browne a lot?

    That would be great if you go hone-in on Pitt’s current “Enigma” Quarterback” and try and charm him-up and bit and talk to him!

    Tell him you talked to the USC SB Nation and Blogger dudes and what they said too!!! 🙂

    Max Browne has been getting just all Banal, Vanilla questions maybe he would respond and get a little ‘Invested’ if you just ask him, “Dude, are you PISSED about how that all went down and Sam Darnold just popping-off and being “All World” and stuff while the USC staff clearly pretty-much played you??”

    And tell him to beat ps-who at their place, way more resoundingly than Sam Darnold did in Pasadena to prove how good he really is 😉 haha.

    #HailToPitt! 🙂

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  80. @Reed just listened to the Podcast….

    …….

    Last year the 3 starting linebackers were: Matt Galambos — Matt Caprara — 20 pounds lighter than now (Man he got JACKED good stuff way to work lol) Sean Idowu …… no offense that “How Many Starts” conversation was NONSENSE.

    Who made a game turning interception, ran it back 70 yards to set up a resounding TD that helped win the game vs the eventual National Champions? A RS Freshman Linebacker in essentially his earliest real Playing Time so that is just….not OBTUSE per-se just not “on-point”.

    Dude LAY OFF on Cam Karter. Only thing he EVER got in trouble for was Weed, and he kicked-it.

    You watched him on a REALITY TV SHOW — LIKE THE “KARDASHIANS” / “REAL HOUSEWIVES” / “THE BACHELOR” — and some people have lost all sense of reality that it’s “PURE SHOWMANSHIP + ENTERTAINMENT” . The fact that the whole Netflix crew followed Kam Carter around like Vultures showed they thought he had the most Star Power and Gravity of all the players there.

    When he starts this year and EXCELS under Pat Narduzzi and Baller D-Line Whisperer Charlie Partridge…. and by the end of the year Pitt fans are already holding their breathe to see if he goes to the NFL —- PLEASE don’t try and back-off from the silly-judgment and act like he’s “Your Guy!” then, Yikes! lol

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  81. And this “You’re more emotionally invested in players so you think they’re so good…..” ????

    National Media: Sophomore James Conner at RB shared time with Senior Runningback from Oklahoma and got the same amount of yards, so who knows —- BRO, that’s JAMES CONNER Pitt fans know when “Media” just knows stats.

    There were TONS of articles including from ESPN saying how Chad Voytik was one of “The Most Efficient” ACC QB’s and was one of the top returning starters in the ACC —– Pitt fans KNOW — Dude can’t play, sorry!

    Jordan Whitehead is looked at by SO MANY scouts as a top ACC player, late 1st early 2nd round pick — Pitt fans are like…. ehhhh he’s got a lot of improvements to make.

    You act like Pitt fans should erase all of their knowledge from following the players + events + coaches much more closely than someone who does not follow the program AT ALL and knows nothing about Pitt nor appreciating it’s history at all?

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  82. George ” the Animal” Aston’s leadership qualities will carry-over on the sidelines this year..He is on a one year sabbatical. With modern surgical intervention and fixation of fractures he should return to form next year.

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  83. We waited a year with J Conner and we survived the graduation of T Boyd…..as the Supreme’s would sing “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” for we PITT fans…..Let’s keep climbin’ POVerts…there is a light at the end of the tunnel …..somewhere

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  84. Whoops comments were all deleted lol — All Good!

    Good timing anyways — I’m gonna be signing-off it was great fun, and I just wanted to throw a tiny bit to ya in the past @Reed to say thanks for the forum and great-luck!

    9-3 !! #HailtoPitt!!

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  85. I never delete posts. What happens sometimes is that WordPress will flag an offending post send it to me email. I’ll edit and approve it. That’s all… I don’t ban posters and I don’t delete posts.

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  86. Look, between Dr. Tom’s cryptic posts and Dark’s always wanting to leave the POV and my not being on here very often I don’t hardly have any idea what’s going on any longer in terms of poster’s continuity.

    but I’m going to reiterate something here because it strikes to the heart of what we all do on here… I do not ever delete post or ban posters and I would think that you guys would know that about me already.

    Hell, I warned you guys about swearing on here and then when it came time to my approving or deleting those post with the swear words in them I couldn’t bring myself to delete them because they also had good football stuff also.

    You guys been much better at that (thanks), but for anyone who thinks that I’m singling out certain guys on here and blocking thier thought from being shared on the POV they’re wrong.

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  87. Take it easy Reed, we are all trying to stay patient and can’t wait for the beginning of the season with you returning and writing some article’s with tailgates galore after you get all your work done you need to do. You have created a great space and place for us all to come to and talk PITT football stuff.

    I mentioned before that when football practice gets a little long in camp, the coach always say’s “we need to hit someone else beside ourselves”. I think that’s where you’ll find the POV right now. 🙂 …. ..ike

    Let’s all say it together…..

    We All We Got
    We All We Need!
    H2P!

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  88. To my friend Reed, you had a great idea to back away from the POV for a moment and recharge your batteries…. but what did you do? First off you felt the need to jump back in because of the suspensions. You also took on a major major undertaking with the hospice training. You jumped out of the pan into the fire.

    Calm down everything is just great. Still got a couple weeks to go, so slow it down again… Remember, you can only control what is in your hands. I would have emailed you this but I know you’re busy as all heck and don’t have the time to do everything!! ike

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  89. Nothing like mentioning a round-table call in show to send the POVer’s running for the door.

    Well I sure do think there will plenty to talk about. We are getting down to the nitty gritty and speculation is turning more and more into reality.

    Who will take Georgie’s spot?
    Will this change PITT offensive approach in any way?
    As Reed asked before, does all this unfortunate rigamarole change your predictions on the season?
    How has Narduzzi handled all this mass BS as a younger head coach?
    Should PITT drop down in class and would anyone still follow PITT football?

    Is there any WE anymore? …… ike

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  90. Kenechukwu Chukka(6’9″ 220lbs) joins the Pitt basketball team today reports PSU. Played Junior College in New Mexico and averaged 15 minutes per game playing time. Stallings sure knows how to pick them doesn’t he Upitt? Your 6 win prediction looks solid now IMO.

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  91. OK, I am behind and this has probably already been posted. But, just in case, from Jerry DiPaola at the Tribune-Review. Great idea.

    HOSTING THE MILITARY

    Active military members, veterans and first-responders will be Pitt’s guests at the opener Sept. 2 at Heinz Field against Youngstown State. Up to four tickets can be claimed at pittsburghpanthers.com. The first 20,000 fans in attendance will receive a commemorative Stars and Stripes Pitt script magnet decal.

    H2P

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