Bowl Eve Recap & Game Thread

OK then. Let’s go down a recall list for the revelers and submit an after action report.

Left my hotel at 6pm and got to the Pitt HQ hotel, the Sheraton Times Square, a bit after.  On the way there I walked up to  Pat Narduzzi standing on the street corner looking up at the street signs and trying to figure out where he was with the phone in his hand.

It was kind of a nice scene because he was in his all Pitt blue and gold sweats and had two packages of shopping in his hands so he looked like a regular tourist but in full Pitt regalia.

Once I got into the hotel I walked up to the bar and saw two guys in Pitt gear so I sat down in the middle and began to speak with them. On my left was Brandon Ford’s father Richard and it was a real pleasure being with him; on my right was another rabid Pitt fan whose Name Escapes Me Now but we sat and talked for about an hour on everything that has to do with the Pitt football program.

Brandon’s Father had a lot of insights into the recruitment of his son, basically from the middle of Penn State territory as that’s where they grew up. He thinks the world of the coaching staff now but really had glowing respect for Paul Chryst and Joe Huber who began recruiting Brandon in his junior year of high school.

Richard said that when Joe Huber approaches your kid as an offensive lineman it is pretty much like the best in the business coming to tell you that he wants your son to play for him. It was hard to refuse that type of offer even though Brandon had traveled around and visited a lot of different Big 10 schools.

After that the Fords went to have dinner at Rosie O’Grady’s Saloon across the street and I went over to talk to Scott Orndoff’s father at the other end of the bar who had, of course, his son’s Jersey on. We had a really important and interesting conversation about Scott and his four years in the program and the changes he saw happen on the staff, team and admin.  Really insightful stuff and some I didn’t know.

Scott, Sr is very proud and I mentioned to him that when I went to the Media Day at Spring practices I had a chance to talk to Scott and Jaymar Parrish together and that Scott was very open and honest about some of the things that he’s experienced in his four years, both good and bad. I discussed some of that with Scott’s father and then sat around drinking beer, a lot of beer, and reminiscing about Pittsburgh and Pitt’s old teams.

After dinner I went downstairs to Rosie O’Grady’s Pub in the basement of the building which was really truly Pitt Central at the time and I met a lot of old friends that I’ve known through tailgating at Pitt football games and some new ones also.

My first conversation was with The Partying Panther, Thomas Baily, who was wearing a panther head as a ball cap and holding court. Tom is a die-hard Pitt fan who takes his converted RV to all the home and almost all the away games that he can. He was sitting with some older players and we talked about what, if anything, is really different this time around.

That was the topic of conversation with everyone I spent time with actually. Later on I sat with Jeff Ferruza and ex-FB Lance Markle 9of Facebook’s “Pitt Panther Fanatics”along  with some guys I knew from the message boards. Everyone was happy with this staff but all agreed that the real test will be when the bigger programs start offering Narduzzi.

I’d say that it was 50/50 on whether Pitt 1) has the money to compete on big contracts and 2) will be willing to spend it. That wasn’t surprising to me as Pitt fans tend to say one thing on the Internet and then another when a subject is discussed in detail.

Another in_depth talk we had with a players parents was about the QB for 2017. We discussed MacVitte’s readiness and agreed that the staff wants transfer Browne as the starter.

Saw Terry and Pamela Wirginis and talked about their kid’s excellent play this year…along with discussing the Gateway Flipper fleet (they own it) and their dealings with Coast Guard inspections.  Years ago I trained the lady who now commands Coast Guard station in PGH.

Talked with Pat Bostick Jr about stuff… Barnes especially and his replacement, whoever that may be,  but my bet is that it won’t be a retreaded Jim Tressel.

I also had some short conversations with a few staff coaches and a couple of players who were walking around.  Most were on their way back into the hotel for a 9:00 curfew I believe but I could be wrong about that.

All in all it was a great night and I was stopped by a bucch of fans who recognized me as the writer of the POV and told me they read it daily…  lots of parents included. One common theme was that is was great to read dissenting opinions in both the articles but also in the many comments and that they liked the civility in which the discussions are held.  So thanks again for that.

Now – up to Billy’s Bar at Yankee Stadium then into the Press Box at around 1:30 0r so.

 

787 thoughts on “Bowl Eve Recap & Game Thread

  1. No way Pitt hires Tressel. Way too much baggage. I’m surprised that it is even being discussed.

    Over the years I have learned I am a horrible predictor of Pitt football results, both wins and losses, so I will stay mute on that subject.

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  2. PITT 42 NW 38 – tougher to read coffee grinds. UPitt there was a show on something like the twlight zone or some such with that scary fortuneteller.
    Huff in case you are on this thread now from the other thread
    Huff You nailed me with that – you are psychic. Moochie was a hard playing excellent baseball player (and all around athlete and great guy as was his family – the Freddie Patek of Hays Road. Hey Mooch. Mr Harewicz and I did coach at St, Louise. You have done Hays proud too Huff!
    HAIL TO PITT
    ps Hope all the family is well. Scott lives in our old house and my wife and i moved into one of the small farmhouses that was across from the Beach about 8 yrs ago. Small world.
    To POVrs Huff and I literally grew up across the street from each other in USC, friends and neighbors Wow
    pss Moochie was better than UPitt at baseball even when he was 10. 🙂 UPitt wouldnt have survived in our hood.

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  3. I went to an Ohio State hoops game last week and the announced attendance was over 11,000.
    They must have counted and multiplied by 2.5.
    That stuff happens everywhere.
    God Bless Pitt!!!

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  4. Yep Jack….espn isn’t showing the crowd. Should be full, so no need to hide the lack of crowd like they do
    so often for their bowls

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  5. I love JC and all he stands for but so far he is not helping his draft position. Queery – if you announce then change your mind without having retained an agent can you still come back? I’m sure JC is gone but my mind wanders during commercials.

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  6. Our fullback trips over the 4 yard line and it costs us 14 points….

    That wasted down with Neil passing costs us too. Does Canada think this is like the Pro Bowl Comedy Hour? We need this win like it’s a playoff game. Not that he cares at this point….

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  7. The goal line stand was a huge momentum swing.

    Pitts offense other than the goal line play was moving the ball pretty easily.

    Don’t panic a long way to go.

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  8. Pitt… Food at the stadium is excellent. Two floors below is the club section where I’m drinking beer as we speak.

    Guys, NW has so much more speed than us it isn’t close – they are in total control of the game at this point.

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  9. Defense looks confused, can’t tackle or cover, nothing new. Unless the offense gets on track it could get ugly.

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  10. @EmptySeatsPics What shit view. Half of the crowd is miles away from the field. Utterly pointless & useless set-up.

    Also, the so-called “best” seats (50 yd line, field level) are the farthest away from the field and behind the foul poles #PinstripeBowl

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  11. It’s a Ketchup Bottle sized crowd….our boys should be in their element. Maybe the Bright Lights of the Big Apple have done them in. 2nd half they’ll be better.

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  12. I sense a ” We had our guys in the right scheme. We just have to make plays guys. ” comment coming from our fearless Defensive Guru.

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  13. Reed….we have 3 points. If the O scored at all in the Red Zone the D might be fired up like they were early.

    Canada should be happy LSU hired him before this game.

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  14. As much as I love Pitt knew they could not win today no heart and Northwestern too good big ten mucho better than anything Pitt has seen

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  15. Henderson drops the ball on the first drive. Fullback drops a knee on the second. NP with a bad pass, Orndoff and Henderson with holds.

    I’d say the game plan was fine, the execution was not.

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  16. folks, I thought I saw a interview where Narduzzi was praising Conklin and said he wasn’t going anywhere. Beyond MAC athletes (not Conklin’s fault) these guys are terrible fundamentally – bad angles, arm tackles, won’t turn their head, etc.- why the faith in him? The fundamentals have been pathetic all year. I dint get it.

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  17. Football should not be played in a baseball stadium – Forbes Field proved that thought.
    Reed I am beginning to sense a dissatisfaction on your part with Conklin. 🙂

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  18. Pitt through poor execution on both sides of the ball remains in this game.

    We will win this game, Narduzzi is going to wake them up during halftime.

    Is it me or the Golics auditioning for a stand up comedy routine today?

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  19. Most interesting Panther….you may be right but the bad news is we’re a 1st half team….and Narduzzi woke up no one in the Navy game.

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  20. Let’s not get goofy here. PITT had two first and goals and completely screwed up the play calling.. NW has run the ball surprisingly but PITT has kept down the passing attack. Lets try and be consistent here.

    Didn’t like the cheap shot on Conner’s head. I’m pissed that went unnoticed.

    PITT has looked good enough to win this game but I do fear NW opening up their passing game.

    Enjoy the game guys……………

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  21. pitt crowd definitely louder on the TV.

    Biggest problem so far (and there are many) is absolutely no pass rush pressure. Their QB is not good but we give him all day to sit back and take a nap while the play develops.

    need to dial something up.

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  22. Everyone talked about their WR Carr….nobody talked about this Jackson RB…..but he had 1300 yards rushing with 12 TD’s and 33 catches.

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  23. I find it hard to believe that there is not a coach on the staff that could not have made some (or any) changes to this defense. it is the same story as every game.

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  24. that last play summed up the entire season for this D. Bad, slow athletes, no fundamentals, bad angles…offense is our only hope today.

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  25. WE’ve now left 21 points on the field. That is tough to overcome. Plus NW is now getting away with cheap shots on our QB and O-line.

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  26. Won’t miss list … add Officer, Pitt defense. And Blewitt…hopefully Conklin.

    You cannot beat Chathams girls football team making these aggregious mistakes!

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  27. Someone spiked our player’s breakfast OJ with stupid pills this morning. Officer costs us 7 now….

    The D stinks but the O is just plain stupid.

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  28. Two stars out with concussions – THIS SUCKS.
    Not expecting much out of DiNucci but a guy i know who recruits for Central recently told me in HS he was out of this world as an athlete.

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  29. In 20 years Dinucci will remember that TD pass as a 40 yard bullet between two defenders! All line drives in the box score. Upitt, you know that!

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  30. Shove those defensive time outs up Conklin’s ass. They were not going make a play IMO. they were trying to get Pitt off sides on the play.

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  31. PItt once again burning timeouts on defense. It would be interesting to see how many times the offense has converted this year after a Pitt defensive TO. My sense is 75%.

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  32. was just making the timeout comment to my buddy. why waste a timeout on this pathetic defense. nothing you can say will matter. we may need those for the offense.

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  33. Can’t recall anything like this: top 2 RBs, QB, All-American guard, top 2 defensive linemen, both safeties all out. The refs. How could Pitt even have a chance?

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  34. To answer the question. I would never punt or even kick a field goal on 4th down against this defense. What’s next? A couple of fumbled onside kicks?

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  35. well. just when this defense can’t get worse….it surpasses my expextations. Narduzzi needs to wipe that look off his face. he shouldn’t be surprised or pissed. this is his defense and his coach and he’s allowed this all season.

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  36. We got em where we want em. Dr Tom where are you – we need a shot of unrealistic confidence. 🙂
    Wonder if Reed introduced himself to the actress as an agent, talent scout, director, admiral?

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  37. Games over now….he should have turned it up field sooner. Leave it to Pitt to be the team that craps the bed for the conference in their bowl game. Bowl SOP lives….

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  38. Well how many times this season has Henderson fumbled ?

    I’m glad I went to Florida instead of going to NYC, see you guys next season. I’m going to the beach.

    May the new year bring you great health and prosperity, and maybe a new defensive coordinator.

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  39. Jack you shoot me and I will shoot you.
    SOP bowl games – this is why heading north to freeze your balls off is not enticing regardless of how great Herman thinks it is. I’d rather be drunk at the Cumquat in Birmingham.

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  40. We all said at the start of the season that we would be in DEEP TROUBLE if Peterman ever went down. Does anyone really think that NW is worried about the deep pass with Di Nucci at QB?

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  41. @Jackagain For some reason Henderson just can’t see that he needs to cut it up and inside.

    Henderson also should have learned by now that he needs to secure the ball once surrounded. Stripped too many times this year.

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  42. Agree Pitt It Is but some guys run harder than others. Guts and determination separate guys at every level. How else do you explain someone like Walter Payton. Small, not that fast but one of the greatest ever

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  43. At least we were leading when our QB went down. The O cost us this game with their many mistakes and bad red zone play. We already knew the defense had no talent, but no excuse for the O crapping the bed.

    Just another in a long line of crap SOP bowl game loses for Pitt….

    You guys who go to these games year after year could apply for Section 8 housing and have no problem getting free rent. Just show the lady your old Pitt Bowl stubs….

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  44. our Big 10 friends will have fun with their 6-6 also ran kicking our ass.

    outplayed – they are faster, smarter and more athletic across the board. Players were every bit as much to blame as the coaches.

    outcoached – offense doesn’t show up and the defense was as bad as ever. Built to stop the run? You’re the CEO Pat, and you got owned across the board.

    This wasn’t bad…it was sad and that’s worse.

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  45. Bowl losses to Navy and Northwestern. Prior to today, Northwestern had 1 bowl win since 1950. Now they have 2 wins. The Narduzzi era and this program has a long way to go.

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  46. Didn’t see that coming. Sad is right. Referees take some credit, but poor execution all over the place.

    Good year with a piece of shit to top it off. Sucks.

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  47. Hoopies got s 75 degree weather Florida Bowl and a capacity crowd. Things are turning out good for them in the Big 12. BBall team is ranked #11. Meanwhile………..

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  48. Goodbye Mr Canada and good luck LSU your little showcase today sucked your playcalling was horrible. Goodbye Mr Blewitt and way not to show up in big game Mr Peterman. Let’s hope we learn to play some defense next year

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  49. What really sux is this is 2 years in a row Pitt traveled well, sold their allotment and more….and disappointed those who shelled out large cash and time to go.

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  50. Same old Pitt. Is that four third-rate-bowl losses in a row? Nice goin’ guys. I still wonder all these years later why exactly I went to this school for undergrad.

    Thank you to the blog hosts in any case.

    Ps… It’s funny, my only consolation with all these losses year after year after year after year, is that the players feel worse than I do. Most of them. No pity on the coaches though, they get paid big-boy money, for apparently no reason.

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  51. The hoopies show up for their bowl games. Thank God we didn’t play them like some Pitt fans wanted. Talk about an embarrassment….

    Remember when Narduzzi said pride goes before a fall? I wonder if our (formerly) ranked boys were over-confident for this game?

    Steve, and goodbye to Officer and several stiffs on defense.

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  52. Hey, Dark Knight, Dr. Tom, etc.. SOP!

    Give your reasons, make your excuses, this is so sad.

    I went to Pitt. My son will be a freshman next year. I drive 3 1/2 hours each way and spend hundreds to go to every game. Nothing has changed.

    I’m so disillusioned with this program. What happened today is a disgrace. I almost didn’t renew my season tickets this year and will only renew because my kid will be a student but this is horrible.

    Only when alumni and fans expect and demand more, and pay for it, will things improve.

    Make no mistake, many of you optimists simply don’t get it. Only full, complete support from the administration will make a difference. They treat us like Pirates fans. They are happy with mediocrity. I have had enough.

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