POV Podcast: Aliquippa and Pitt; Part 1


I mentioned before that I had been reading a great book titled Playing Through the Whistle by S. L. Price.  I want to share some passages from it along with my thoughts that I had while reading this.

We all know of Mike Ditka and Tony Dorsett’s (Hopewell) great football careers at Pitt but what was the town they came from like?  That isn’t something most college football fans care much about because it is their living in the moment that matters… “What has he done for my school’s football team?” is the most common thought.

Well, “You are where you came from” is an old saying but one I think is dead-on true.  I left Pittsburgh (I grew up in Shadyside) when I was 22 years old back in 1978, but I always think of myself as a Pittsburgher first and foremost – even though I have lived away from the city for 38 years.  I believe the same hometown sentiment holds true with most people from Pittsburgh and the surrounding communities. 

Once when underway on a long sea voyage a bunch of other Coast Guardsmen and I were sitting around the ship’s mess deck talking about various and sundry things  and someone mentioned that New York and Pittsburgh were the only cities where others who are from there make sure to mention that fact in their first sentences when talking with you.

Well hell boys and girls, I’m from Pittsburgh and I have found that to be the case…as it should be.  It is a different place altogether and is, in essence, two cities; Steel and Post-Steel.But you can pick out the Pittsburghers from others by their strong actions and then sometimes by the way they talk.

This book tracks and explains the blast furnace that was Aliquippa football which molded and spit out some of the most talented and tough boys and men that have ever existed in America. 

While our backgrounds might not be the same as these kids who grew up in Aliquippa – mine sure isn’t – I do believe that each and every one of us was taught by teachers, friends and family that we had generations of Pittsburgh role models who took task to hand and showed the country, and indeed the world, what value the Steel City and its inhabitants inherently hold.

Enjoy the stories… and tell some of your own in the comments section.

90 thoughts on “POV Podcast: Aliquippa and Pitt; Part 1

  1. Nice piece Reed. Have a good time away.

    Couple notes: Dorsett graduated 73, same year as me…..and many others I’m sure. Also in the class at my school was a QB and a Tailback that both went on to play at psu. The year before psu recruited a lineman from our school. By the time they were seniors they were all starters. One was the center, one was the qb and the other the running back. Yes, there were plays when a Gbg Salem alum snapped the ball to a Gbg Salem alum who handed the ball to a GBG alum.
    Argent to Andress to Taylor.

    Taylor and Dorsett were the two top backs in the state their senior years. Duane Taylor picked psu and PITT landed Dorsett. Taylor became the first player to play as a true freshman at psu in their history. Only a few short years before it became legal to play true freshman but joe refused until Taylor came along.

    Like being proud of being from Pittsburgh the people from around the surrounding area are also proud of exactly were we come from as a general rule.

    Sadly or not so, psu had the first of many horrible seasons that year.

    Yes I’m bored tonight


  2. Reed — Enjoyed listening to your POV Podcast.

    BTW, I was at Pitt for the Dave Hart / Carl Depasqua era. So you’re correct that the younger Pitt fans of today who are so disappointed in a 6-6 season would have struggled mightily with the Pitt teams I had to root for… In my 4 years at Pitt, the Panthers went 1-9, 1-9, 4-6, and 5-5 — and I still went to every home football game! (Amazing that just six seasons later the Panthers would go undefeated and win the NC.)

    Some player names from that era that pop into my head — Skip Orzalak (WR); Ralph Cindrich (LB); Lloyd Weston (DT); Denny Ferris (RB); Joe McCain (RB); John Simpson (OG); Doc Medich (TE) and Davy Havern (QB). Ralph Cindrich and Lloyd Weston were big local recruits who were going to help turn Pitt around. Cindrich had problems with injuries for what seemed like his whole career.

    Pitt Stadium had a sign at the goal line back then that said “Paydirt — No Visitors,” but it didn’t do much good. If I remember correctly the 1970 team was 5-0 and after that 5th victory, fans were throwing oranges onto the field to signify the Orange Bowl – but then Pitt didn’t win another game that season. Talk about a let down!

    Appreciate your work on the blog…

    Go Pitt.


  3. I finished the book last week. It is amazing that some of the kids made it out of there especially after the Ditka years.
    When you look back at how many of our towns have the same story it is sad.
    I can remember as a small kid, growing up in an industrial town in the area, looking at the pictures in the barbershop of the high school players. I really wanted to be there some day, but that era was gone by the time my turn came. I think today that the photos are on wanted posters and only a very lucky few get out.
    While the region as a whole has made a good transition. The “mill towns” have paid a terrible price. I can Rember going off to college thinking how my buddies who went to work were making so much money I would never catch up. Thank god my parents did not want to hear about quitting school,and getting a good job.


  4. Pittsburgh easily could have pulled a modern-day Detroit and folded after the Big Steel left but there was honest foresight and true community / political / business and Old Money support to pull the city through.

    And look at Pittsburgh now – it is truly a beautiful city in many ways. The arts scene is amazing, the education and cultural stuff is great – sports are plentiful and the historic preservation (Oakland especially) has been top-notch.

    I get the PGH City Paper and read the P-G every day and it looks like there is something going on culturally every day of the week – and some are either free or very low cost. I’d get an apartment near Oakland and just immerse myself in everything the city has to offer.

    But I’ll tell you all something – I do pretty much that here in MD also but I meet so many people who say they are “bored” and “there is nothing to do…” and the bald fact is they are too lazy to do a small bit of research and get their asses off the couch in the evenings.

    I have to get up and out of the house for at least 2-3 hours per day since I’m not working, sometimes all day even.

    My wife calls me her “Free Range Husband”.

    Glad you liked this piece – a longer one for Thursday evening I think.


  5. Oct. 18, 2016

    PITTSBURGH—Pat Narduzzi’s Pitt Panthers continued to garner individual accolades this afternoon with the unveiling of two more Midseason All-America teams by SI.com and CBSSports.com.
    Three Pitt players were named Midseason All-Americans by SI.com: sophomore wide receiver/return specialist Quadree Henderson, senior offensive guard Dorian Johnson and senior defensive end Ejuan Price.
    Henderson and Price were also honored by CBSSports.com. The pair previously was recognized on the Sporting News Midseason All-America squad.                                             
    Henderson (Wilmington, Del./Alexis I. du Pont) has earned his Midseason All-America accolades as a return specialist. The sophomore has two kickoff return touchdowns this year and three over his last eight games. He is the only FBS player with multiple kickoff return TDs in 2016.
    Henderson tops the ACC and ranks second nationally in combined kick return yardage (687). He is averaging an impressive 35.9 yards per kickoff return (third in FBS and first in ACC) and 12.4 yards per punt return (12 in FBS and fifth in ACC). The versatile Henderson has also been a threat in the pass and run games. His 172.86 all-purpose yards per game rank seventh in the country and second in the ACC.
    Price (Rankin, Pa./Woodland Hills) is arguably the most disruptive defensive lineman in college football. He leads the country in quarterback sacks per game (1.29 avg.) and ranks third in tackles for loss per game (1.9 avg.). Price tops the ACC in both categories and is a frontrunner for the conference’s Defensive Player of the Year honor.
    Half of Price’s 26 tackles this season have been for a loss. He has compiled 13 TFLs, nine sacks, nine QB hurries and three forced fumbles on the year. Price has also established himself among the most prolific pass rushers in school history. He has 25.5 career sacks to rank sixth all-time at Pitt. That total places him third among the NCAA’s active career leaders.
    Johnson (Belle Vernon, Pa./Belle Vernon Area) has been a spearhead on the Panthers’ offensive front. A starter at left guard in 33 consecutive contests, he has helped the Pitt offense earn top 25 national rankings in time of possession (seventh, 34:48 avg.), fewest sacks allowed (eighth, 0.71 per game), red zone offense (15th, 93.5%, 29 of 31), rushing (19th, 239.1 yards per game) and scoring (25th, 38.4 points per game).
    Johnson has established himself as a leading candidate for the Jacobs Blocking Trophy, annually presented to the most outstanding blocker in the ACC by a vote of each school’s head coach or defensive coordinator.
    Following an open date this week, the Panthers (5-2, 2-1 ACC) will return to action on Thursday, Oct. 27, when they host Virginia Tech (4-2, 2-1) at Heinz Field for a nationally televised ESPN game at 7 p.m.


    Quadree Henderson—Return Specialist

    SI.com (first team)
    Sporting News

    Ejuan Price—Defensive End

    SI.com (second team)
    Sporting News

    Dorian Johnson—Offensive Guard

    SI.com (first team)


  6. MajorMajors,

    Your memory is pretty good. I was there too. However, Pitt was 5-1, not 5-0. Lost opener to UCLA.

    Years later I got to hear Dave Hart relate a story about one of his captains, OL Ed Whittaker. Easy Ed. After hearing from coaches ad naseum that games are won and lost in the pits, Hart confronted Easy Ed during a blowout that Pitt was losing. Hart said “Whittaker, where did I say games were lost?” Easy Ed replied, “At Pitt, sir”.


  7. I grew up on the other side of the state (Coatesville, PA), but two of my best friend’s from my Pitt days are from Quip and another is from Ambridge. I spent many a weekend on one side or the other of the Aliquippa-Ambridge Bridge and never felt more welcomed and cared for by so many people who had no idea who I was and didn’t care where I was from. #H2P and #H2Pittsburgh


  8. I see MajorsMajor mentioned Doc Medich in his posting above. Doc is also an Aliquippa alum who turned out to be quite different from the typical native … he became a doctor and a major league pitcher.

    Two others who were raised in Aliquippa who made names for themselves were “Pistol Pete” Maravich and Henry Mancini. Maravich was not born there but lived there in his late elementary and junior high years when his dad, Press, was the basketball coach.

    Mancini was born in the Little Italy section of Cleveland but moved to Aliquippa as an infant, and graduated there.

    Of course, all 3 of the above lived in Aliquippa, as did Ditka, before the steel mills began to close, and it was a thriving town .. just like the rest of the Beaver Valley.


  9. Here are some more – pretty amazing actually for such a small town:

    Notable people

    Paul Posluszny, NFL player
    Gust Avrakotos, Central Intelligence Agency operative
    Jonathan Baldwin, NFL player
    Tommie Campbell, NFL player
    Daniel Chamovitz, noted biologist and author of What a Plant Knows
    Mike Ditka, Pro Football Hall of Fame player and coach
    Tony Dorsett, Pro Football Hall of Fame player
    Kevin Budkey, Comedian, designer, entrepreneur
    Kenny Easterday, star of the Canadian movie "Kenny" (1988)
    Ivor Parry Evans, base commander, Walker AFB
    Sean Gilbert, NFL player
    Frank Gnup, Canadian football player and coach
    Nate Guenin, National Hockey League player
    Frank Hribar, NFL player
    Ty Law, NFL player
    Joe Letteri, award-winning visual imaging artist
    Henry Mancini, Grammy and Oscar-winning music composer (Moon River and The Pink Panther    Theme),    born in Cleveland, raised in Aliquippa
    Pete Maravich, Basketball Hall of Fame player
    Press Maravich, basketball coach
    Demetria Martinez, poet and author
    Felicia Mason, author
    Doc Medich, Major League Baseball pitcher
    Darrelle Revis, NFL player
    Curt Singer, NFL player
    Jesse Steinfeld, Surgeon General of the United States
    Pete Suder, Major League Baseball player

    OK – driving south in a few minutes. I’ll have something up by Thursday evening.


  10. Thanks for the POV Podcast Reed. As a Pittsburgh boy now living in Allentown PA I had a great Pittsburgh moment last night when I got to meet Dan Marino, have my picture taken with him and have him autograph my Pitt hat. We had a chance to talk for a few minutes(he was in Allentown for a ribbon cutting for Anthony’s Coal Fire Pizza restaurant in which he is part owner). As soon as I showed him by Pitt hat he started to smile and told me he loves the new Pitt script and thinks Narduzzi is the real deal. Told him I remember going down to West Virginia and watching him play when he was a freshman and he said” I think we played at the old West Virginia stadium”. I told him he was correct and that when Pitt was backed up on their own goal line and he took the snap and was in the end zone and he looked so calm and composed and threw a bullet to one of our receivers. He laughed and I could see the fire in his eyes as if he were ready to put the Pitt helmet on and go into battle. Another check mark on my bucket list H2P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  11. Ike,
    I’m thinking Dorsett graduated HS in 72 (the year I did). I say that because he started all 4 years at Pitt and won the NC and Heisman in 1976. Hence, he played at Pitt 73, 74,75,and 76,
    Also, thanks Reed for the podcast, brought back many memories of that era.


  12. FYI – he graduated from Hopewell High in ’73, last FB season in HS was ’72. Dorsett, like Rushel Shell, lived in Alliquippa but played at neighboring Hopewell … not transfers, just the way the districts were set up. Hopewell HS 1st year of existence was 69 and took part of Aliquippa.


  13. Thanks guys (Ike,wbb)!!
    For some reason I was wrongly thinking that the college football season extends thru the next calendar year. But I realize now that TD graduated HS in 73 and he played his first year at Pitt also in the 73 season, not the “73-74” season.


  14. Worked up and down the Beaver Valley in the late 1980’s. Some of the towns fared better than others. Ambridge and Beaver had pretty nice main streets, Beaver especially. While others didn’t have much to offer, and in fact their ‘main streets’ had fallen into total disrepair, like Aliquippa. Beaver Falls, Freedom and Monaca were slightly better. Use to stop in a couple Riverside restaurants in the Bridgewater part of Beaver, that were pretty nice. Can’t remember their names, there was also this ‘Curb Service’ burger joint.

    There was also this really nice restaurant on Route 68 in the early 2000’s, that was in one of the old River Locks buildings down around Industry, Pa on the Ohio River. Happened in there the day President Bush was on a campaign swing thru Industry, so traffic was tied up all around. The restaurant/bar was supposed to be haunted. Can’t remember the name of that place either. But we didn’t see any ghosts. 😦


  15. I don’t know if I have ever adequately expressed my DEEP APPRECIATION to Reed and all of his (our)commentators on the POV. Many of us are retired old farts or close to being old farts and it gives us a place to go and share our thoughts and lives with each other. Much like the many old guys across our great land who meet every morning at donut shops, cafes, and restaurants to shoot the breeze together and belong to something. The POV is meeting a need in my life and I’m very thankful to be a part of it. #H2P


  16. Hey wwb, good link. Per that ESPN article.

    “The reaction to Pitt’s throwbacks, which looked something like the threads Tony Dorsett wore in the mid-1970’s (as well as a certain fictional team of Panthers), was so positive, it left many wondering why the Panthers don’t switch to the look full time.”


  17. yea, that looks like the place.. I knew the owners but they couldn’t swing it, and the wife got real sick … so they closed a handful of years ago. Now, it may be re-opened by someone else … not sure. Haven’t been in that area in ages.


  18. ~ wwb
    It has to be 16 years since I was at that place, right around this time (mid to late Oct), since W was campaigning in 2000. Was only up there for a brief period from the Carolinas, since my Mom was ill.

    The curb service place in Bridgewater could have been this place.

    And I think one of the restaurants in Bridgewater could have been Kelly’s.


  19. NFL and even college sports attendance is dropping. TV ratings are also down a little.
    Young people are attracted to interactive games and activities. Not sure how the ratings were for the Olympics. Seems to me technology may have some ideas such as virtual reality experiences for sports games. But times are changing just like what happened economically to the many towns we know in PA and across the nation. Johnstown was my hometown. But I had to leave because there was very little future there.


  20. Thanks for the wwb/pittman for the clarification. I was all ready to come back on here and apologize as I thought I had in right but somehow got it all wrong. I just figured it was the old fart syndrome again. 🙂


  21. The throwbacks were great and I’ll take what they give us but I’m with Reed. Those are NOT the right colors. If anyone thinks those uniforms looked great would love the mustard gold and deeper blue. just saying.


  22. also love my man Reed. This has become my go to relief station. Anyone else think that maybe Reed’s wife put her foot down and got a few days getaway because he’s been spending too much time playing with his new toy. (PittPOV)


  23. Frank MD, overall TV ratings for college FB are hard to determine. On my TV, from noon thru midnight, I always have a choice of at least a half dozen games to watch … and much of time more than that. Whereas, my usual fare for NFL are the Browns at 1 pm and Cowboys at 4.

    In college FB alone on Primetime Saturday, you may have Ohio St on one network, Notre Dame on another, and Oklahoma, Clemson or USC on a third. Thus, no one game may be a ratings leader but overall, there may be really high viewership


  24. BTW Reed, I really like the older pictures you post here. Any old fart like me who enjoys older pictures should check out the Post Gazette “The Digs” … which is a large photo gallery of the Pittsburgh area from the early 1900s thru 1970s .. usually with a little story behind them.


  25. From that espn article wwb linked earlier concerning Throwbacks.

    “Miami would like to be restored to the place in the championship conversation it held in the 1980s, so perhaps the throwback uniforms were wishful thinking. As with Pitt, the Hurricanes might want to consider a full-time switch.”


  26. I got you on that Emel. I’ll take them all day and every week! Home and away. Although if the colors remain the same they could tweak them a little bit next year.

    and………I just hate the blue helmets and white pants on the new uniforms.


  27. Emel,
    I totally agree with you that the throwback uniforms for this years Homecoming (that are close to what Alex Van Pelt wore) are DEFINITELY better than this years actual uniforms. I hope they WEAR THEM!!!


  28. WVCC has played five average opponents (many teams have six games under their belts at this point). WVCC has yet to play the meat of their schedule: Baylor, TCU, Texas, OK, OK St, Iowa St etc. IMO, they won’t be top 10 for long. Time will tell. I think that Pitt would give them all that they could handle.


  29. PM4ever…a lot of us feel the same about the POV and Blather- I know I do…It’s a happy place in my life where I go several times a day to read, relax and join in the the conversation..real fans with real knowledge.. a connection to the past and a link to the future of PITT football..I really appreciate Reed’s work but also a lot of others who can post articles, videos and actually do statistical analysis to back a POV- Thanks for all you do-all of you.
    Through the POV and Blather I have been able to meet several of the posters over the past 2 years-new friends to meet and have a beer and BS with and hope to meet more while I am on this side of the mid-field logo Can’t beat it..so Hail to PITT every loyal son..
    UPitt..you going to Clemson game


  30. FWIW … two more mid-season A-A Teams came out today. CBSports has both Price and Henderson (KR) listed, while ESPN doesn’t list either but hasDorian Johnson at OG


  31. FWIW per ESPN

    The reaction to Pitt’s throwbacks, which looked something like the threads Tony Dorsett wore in the mid-1970s (as well as a certain fictional team of Panthers), was so positive, it left many wondering why the Panthers don’t switch to the look full time.


  32. Dr. Tom – yesterday you were stressed out by Pitt’s lack of Dline recruits. Well it’s actually not too bad –

    Carson Van Lynn from OH is listed as OL but has verballed to Pitt as a DL at 6’7″ 255lbs

    And, these 3 recruits have Pitt in their top three:

    Ty Garbutt from VA – 4* DE
    Donovan Jeter from PA – 4* DE
    Jaylon Twyman from DC – 3* DT


  33. Garbutt is a VT lean but does like PITT a lot.
    Jeter doesn’t want to play for a crappy team. (don’t have a clue what that means)
    Twyman looks like a Michigan lean but they have D-lineman already committed.

    My prediction? PITT gets two of these guys and maybe all three! BOOM!


  34. Emel – I worked at Westinghouse in Beaver back in the 80’s. In addition to Jerry’s, I enjoyed tipping a few at The Riverside Saloon and Thursday’s. Then there was the Wooden Angel – the part in Beaver was dry and the part in Bridgewater had one of the most impressive wine cellars around. I happened to pass through there this past Spring and Beaver has retained all of its charm. Westinghouse and Michael Baker are long gone from the area but the town has really done well. Unfortunately, the same is not true of othe towns along the river.


  35. There is still hope …. Pitt can get Reeves, Jeter and Wade (the local remaining 4-stars)

    Last I heard, Reeves (TE from Steubenville) announcement is upcoming. Wade and Jeter to announce in December.


  36. I took Route 60 (excused me – 376) going towards Pgh Airport late spring, and the land near the south shore of the Ohio adjacent to the bridge is all cleared off. If memory serves, Shell is building a chemical plant there


  37. excerpt from DiPaola article in Trib today … good stuff IMO:

    Coach Pat Narduzzi, whose defense is designed to stop the run and react to the pass, shoulders much of the blame. He said the coaching staff isn’t getting its message across emphatically enough.

    “If you ask our kids to do something, they will do it,” he said. “If you assume that they’ve got it and we don’t emphasize exactly what we want, sometimes you’re not going to get it. And that’s young student-athletes across the country.

    “That’s on us as coaches.”

    The situation improved slightly in Pitt’s 45-31 victory against Virginia. Although Pitt allowed 278 yards through the air — only 20 yards better than its average — Virginia quarterback Kurt Benkert was 4 for 11, with three sacks, one interception and 39 yards in the second and third quarters.

    Not coincidentally, that is when the game’s momentum changed in Pitt’s favor.

    Narduzzi scoffed at the notion his staff should get credit, although safeties Jordan Whitehead and Reggie Mitchell said coaches’ adjustments and admonishments helped.

    “I think a lot of times those are overrated,” Narduzzi said. “This game is not that complicated that we have to go into halftime and make all these gigantic decisions. It’s really going back and making sure our guys play with good fundamentals.


  38. This isn’t the first time that HCPN has said that there are no major adjustments being made at halftime. Although it sure looks like PITT comes out after the half and plays better football in many games. I read on the message boards people trying to figure out tendencies in Narduzzi’s coaching and there just aren’t thee right now.

    I keep thinking that Pat reminds me of DW when he first came to PITT as head coach, Dave really didn’t know what he was doing at first even with his experience as a head coach in the NFL. Narduzzi with all his experience as an asst coach seems to be lost at times with all the duties of being a head coach. At least that’s the way it seems to me. The good news is that at least PITT has an AD and chancellor in place that won’t get rid of HCPN after he actually figures it all out. PITT has a good one in their head coach, give him another year or two and PITT will be a force to be reckoned with.


  39. WARNING – Boring story to all but me

    Speaking of the steel mills and Pitt football I have one about myself and my uncle Glenn. My dad and his 3 brothers were all good story tellers and Uncle Glenn enjoyed me telling this one. My Uncle Glenn worked in National Tube steel mill in McKeesport for 40 years. When I was in grade school we visited his house (when you’re poor you visit family for recreation a lot) and a Pitt football game was on and I began to watch with Uncle Glenn.

    As we cheered for Pitt he asked me my favorite team and I responded with a resounding “Pitt !”. A smile cracked his face then he asked me what I thought of Penn State and I responded “I hate em” He now had the biggest grin on his face and I think I became his favorite nephew that day.

    Flash forward several years to the DePasqua years and we were in a church at a wedding for one of my older cousins and Uncle Glenn’s nephew during football season. It was about 2 pm and I noticed that he had a earphone with the wire running into his suit (a transistor radio with the earphone you youngins – look that up).

    I approached him to learn the score and my Aunt Gayle, his blond airline stewardess sister, got there first. She saw the earphone and said “Glenn how long have you had a hearing aid, I didn’t know you were going deaf.” He looked at me, smiled and said “Gayle the mill is hard on your hearing.” Gayle flitted off. I then said to Uncle Glenn “what’s the score and is Pitt winning?” He laughed and told me. We laughed about it for years.

    When I was accepted at Pitt I think Uncle Glenn may have been as proud as my parents. I don’t know what the split on Pitt vs Penn State was in the mill but our blue collar families were Pitt people all the way and we didn’t call it “Pittsburgh Panthers” God rest your soul Uncle Glenn . Your double degreed Pitt nephew.


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  40. Dr Tom, you want to talk about being worried about recruiting…..look at our BBall team. Almost (if not) all of our top targets have put Pitt out of the picture. In fact the most recent one was considered to be a Pitt lean – and we didn’t even make his top 3. There are a number of scholarships left for next year and we don’t have any good prospects (both in player and chance of landing them) left at this point. That’s a scary thought considering what we loose. We need to hope for a miracle year and maybe some of these guys will change their mind.


  41. JJ, we do have two decent BB commits but your message is pretty much spot on. The move to the ACC seems to have sent our BB recruiting spiraling … (and not upwards)


  42. about all PITT sports but now particularly basketball:

    Secretly I worry, secretly I hope, deep down inside me I can see maybe a problem but it’s just not me to get upset at something before it even happens.

    I do understand that we are all different so I’m not being critical here. Like the goofy Madonna once said. I’m expressing myself, in a different kind of way.


  43. I’m not particularly ready to talk Bball yet. But no one has even seen a game with this new coach, so maybe we should see the product before we make a decision. Probably what the recruits are doing also.
    One things for, many high profile players were not interested in “Jamieball”. But time tells all! #H2P


  44. Best uniforms of the year, the throwbacks and all blues.

    You can wish for the mustard, I wouldn’t mind it, but the younger generation isn’t buying a color that looks like baby shit. There is a reason that color and avocado green haven’t made a comeback from the 70s. LOL

    By the way, in the article talking about best uniforms so far this seaso, notice that most teams have multiple uniforms now. There are enough options to keep everyone happy.


  45. Excellent Story rkb…..thoroughly enjoyed it ! Would have liked to have known your Uncle Glenn.

    From my understanding all thru teen’s & early 20’s (Pop Warner), the rest of the 20’s(Jock) and then 30’s (Jock) and even thru Pitt’s downturn in the ’40’s (you know ww2 and such stuff), clear into the 50’s and into the 60’s, Pittsburgh was 90-95% behind Pitt. Only when these peabrains that Pitt wouldn’t accept, started going to Pedo State…did anybody take much notice of the Pedo’s. As perversion increased, so did Pedo State’s popularity……..go figure !


  46. You can tell your kids and the youngins that Pitt football was #1 in the City of Pittsburgh among ALL sports,
    Pitt football DWARFED THE Steelers. Henceforth I think the Rooney’s are still somewhat hostile to Pitt.



  47. I’m building a time machine to go back to and visit with Pitt’s 1917 team that went undefeated at 10-0, the 3rd year in a row Pitt was undefeated under Pop Warner. And then I have another 21 years of great Pitt football to watch and 4 Rose Bowl games to attend.

    See we’re just living in the wrong time period.


  48. Emel, one of those teams of that era played a whole season and NO ONE scored on Pitt’s defense. 0 points scored by the opposition for the entire season. WOW!


  49. Pittman – I’d take a scoreless half from the current D.

    Pitt has a rich and decorated football history. I love watching the pre game video on the Heinz Field megatron that shows the Pitt greats making plays – that video gets me fired up for the game, every time.

    Hoping to watch the VT vs Miami game tonight to see a glimps of what is to come.



  50. Good story rhb….hail 2 uncle Glenn.

    As for BB recruiting, most of those recruits were most likely interested in Dixon. Stallings is going to have to prove himself here in order to get his recruits. This better be a good year…


  51. Excellent story rbk.

    What are people thinking scheduling their wedding on the day of a Pitt game!!! There ought to be a law…

    Go Pitt.


  52. ~ Pittman4ever

    That was Pitt’s 1910 team, the Fighting Dentists. The whole starting team was in Dental School.

    My how things have changed. lol


  53. On BB recruiting, we need some inside players with size. Coach D. hadn’t gotten anyone since Steven Adams left — I think it’s only fair to give Coach Stallings a couple of recruiting seasons to bring in somebody.

    We are going to be in trouble again this season because we are just over-matched by teams with bulky inside guys.

    Go Pitt.


  54. Some may say and or think the PITT secondary consist only of dental students right now? (not me)

    PITT BB really should be good this year. I don’t know the schedule but they do have some players. It’s the years after I worry about.


  55. Emel,
    Wearing those leather helmets with no face guards probably made it essential that at least 1 dentist was on the team!!!! :>)
    LOVED the Uncle Glenn story!!!
    I had an Uncle Elmer who was full of stories. One of his infamous quotes: “Kid, the way I see it I got it made – I came into this world butt naked and I’m going out wearing a suit!!


  56. Right Pittman….along the same lines this year’s team (defensively) could use a cardiologist and a fireman(oops is fireman still allowed) fireperson, whatever.


  57. MM, maybe we won’t need big men if Stallings makes the team into a fast break team. This isn’t going to be a slow down half court offense anymore.


  58. VT is looking strong offensively, chucking it all over the place almost at will. Definitely opening up the playbook which is good for our defense to see. They look fast.

    Miami looks very average so far this game. VT is pressuring the QB which is causing problems which is destroying his confidence. VT is pressuring the qb to the tune of 6 sacks so far without blitzing. They also are stacking 7 or 8 in the box to stop the run. Their defense is swarming to the ball. Both teams look beatable, but I am trending towards a more easy contest against Miami.


  59. How the hell did the Orangeman beat the Gobblers .. go figure… watched VPI against the Tarheels – played in a monsoon – what really stood out was their tackling especially from the DBs and LBs . To a man they hit hard used their shoulders, wrapped up … should be a good game knowing this won’t be a let down game for them… could we see a complete game from our guys this week? Hope so.. we will need it!


  60. The announcers made a point last night of how good a QB conference the ACC is this year … as does the story linked below. Plus we also played against two other high rated passers … from Ok St and Marshall. But what is scary is that we still have to face Evans (VT) Kaaya (U) Watson (Clemson) and Dungee (Cuse) .. and didn’t even mention Duke which always has a good passing attack these days.


    Just hope we worked on the pass defense in the off week.


  61. Can’t wait to see 5′ 7″ Maddox trying to cover 6′ 7″ Bucky Hodges, that is if Maddox can come back from injury and play.


  62. BigB, Cuse beat VT primarily because of the scheduling. They came off a big win 2 weeks ago vs UNC where they played their best game of the year, and then had to go to Syracuse .. only 4 days before facing Miami at home. No way they were focused at the Carrier Dome .. and the results proved it. Just hope they feel satisfied with their big win last night that they aren’t as focused against us next week.

    The only more unfair scheduling I can remember for Pitt was in 2008 when after Pitt won a big game vs Iowa, they had to travel to Syracuse the following Saturday, and then a weeknight game AT USF, which was ranked #8 at the time. (Note that there is a mandate in the NFL that a team that has to travel on a Thursday night must play at home the game before — but in this case, Pitt had back-to-back travel games only 5 days apart) Just another gem from Smug Steve!! Nonetheless, Pitt somehow pulled it off by winning all 3


  63. Guys – you are all great storytellers.

    I’m working up something now that is a bit of a change of pace article but one I think is good for a mid-bye week piece. Time enough for football starting tomorrow. Will try to get it posted by noon…


  64. VT showed run/pass balance last night. 250 yards on the ground, 280 in the air. The VT QB ran for 98 of the 250. They shut down Miami’s run game.

    Pitt is going to need to show up for this one. I think that we will do okay if our O-line is ready to play.


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